12 Mar 11
Originally posted by DasaSo you think there is nobody else on this forum who knows as much about God as you?
The only persons in this world that know anything of the truth of God, are those persons who are subscribing to the teachings of Vedanta....why?
Because Vedanta is presented by the Personality of Godhead and are the eternal teachings of the the spiritual life presenting perfect knowledge of God and the living being, without error........and they are not some ...[text shortened]... raise the consciousness of the initiate to the the platform of love of God............it cannot.
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by buckkythe true scriptures are no trouble finding the truth.
The Scriptures have been the trouble with trying to find the Truth. How many different demoninations are there ? How many different religious books are out there all claiming to have the full Truth ? You go to this church, and I go to another and we both dissagree on certain points of Scripture. In my oppinion Holy Books cripple the forward evolution of spiritual thought. They turn everything into a museum piece, and freeze out new ideas on the subject.
2] you mix up the practice of your faith [religon] and the way of god.. there are many books to read, then read as many as you can and learn for yourself that is how god wants us to do not be addicted to doctrine.
3] they turn everything to museum pieces?? some thing from early mankind will be and should be there so we all can view them, not hidden away in some vault, as for freezeing out new ideas what a load of .... it helps the debate as to the way of its meaning from the time its written to the present and the future.
or are you saying that the words jesus spoke and the words spoke to the early prophets have no meaning today??
12 Mar 11
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Originally posted by buckkyDon't say this. It is not true.
None of us know jack about the nature and possibility of God, but everyone seems to be an expert on the subject. The ego can be a blinding thing.
Some of us would be lying if we said that we knew nothing about God. Such false humilty would not be truthful.
The issue is one of timing. Someone knew more about God then I did at a certain time. Then at a certain time what they knew I also came to know. This is a timing matter. All do not get married at the same time. Some preceed others. Some follow others. Timing is nothing to boast in or to feel inferior about.
This is like passing a candle flame from one candle to another. One by one the other candles, if they are willing, also come to share in the flame. This is a matter of timing. There is nothing to feel proud about or inferior about.
Secondly, to say that we know something of God and have fellowship with God is by no means to say we know Him as well as we should. I know something of God. I do not know God nearly as deeply and as extensively as I should. But I know more of God then I once did.
Neither is it say that there is nothing more to know of God. Eternity will not be enough for us to enjoy all that God is and to know God. But we can get started.
God is eager to have a fellowship and communion with each of us. And in Christ He has made provision to remove the main obstacle which hinders that fellowship, our sins. The barrier is our sins. The wall is our sins. They must be cleansed away and forgiven through our believing into the Lord Jesus Christ.
Once you confess your need for the forgiveness in Christ and the redemption in His death there is no more barrier for a man to have fellowship with the Spirit of God.
Howard Higashi speaks on the gospel:
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by stokerI'm saying there is no way to know what Jesus said, and did not say. Two thousand years ago is a long time ago to get the facts straight. Books seem to me to be a poor way to reveil the nature a reality of God. Many world religions are out there that also claim to have the correct Book. Christians only consider the Bible as the Real Book. It reminds me of the KKK thinking only white people are truely human. The desire to be apart of the "True Religion" has caused much trouble troughout history.
the true scriptures are no trouble finding the truth.
2] you mix up the practice of your faith [religon] and the way of god.. there are many books to read, then read as many as you can and learn for yourself that is how god wants us to do not be addicted to doctrine.
3] they turn everything to museum pieces?? some thing from early mankind will be and shou ...[text shortened]... ing that the words jesus spoke and the words spoke to the early prophets have no meaning today??
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by buckkyThis is largely true. Especially once you consider that the gospels weren't written for some 40 to 70 years after Jesus' death. I think what Jesus said was altered dramatically during that time period. There are attempts to pare away the later revisions, but their attempts will always be conjectural.
I'm saying there is no way to know what Jesus said, and did not say. Two thousand years ago is a long time ago to get the facts straight. Books seem to me to be a poor way to reveil the nature a reality of God. Many world religions are out there that also claim to have the correct Book. Christians only consider the Bible as the Real Book. It reminds me of the ...[text shortened]... man. The desire to be apart of the "True Religion" has caused much trouble troughout history.
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by rwingettYou speak like God has nothing to do with scripture, the Holy Spirit who was with
This is largely true. Especially once you consider that the gospels weren't written for some 40 to 70 years after Jesus' death. I think what Jesus said was altered dramatically during that time period. There are attempts to pare away the later revisions, but their attempts will always be conjectural.
the people of faith were there before, during, and after Jesus walked among us
as a man.
Kelly
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by KellyJayYou speak like you 'assume' there is such a thing as God and a Holy Spirit. Do you believe on spirits, and ghosts and goulies?
You speak like God has nothing to do with scripture, the Holy Spirit who was with
the people of faith were there before, during, and after Jesus walked among us
as a man.
Kelly
You speak like you 'know' a person called Jesus walked this planet as the son of a God, and the son of man, purely because some book says so.
Vampires exist, did you know? Because Bavarian books say so, so Q.E.D. - they do!
As I once posted a long time ago, and a previous poster in this thread, people create books to get a following and earn money - especially skilled talents such as J.K.Rowling, who is now one of the richest women in the world - thanks to he creation of Harry Potter.
I wonder how much the 'makers' and creationalists of the bible made? 😏
-m.
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by buckkyPlease permit me to relate a metaphor spoken by Ramakrishna Paramahans in this regard.
None of us know jack about the nature and possibility of God, but everyone seems to be an expert on the subject. The ego can be a blinding thing.
He says:- In the beginning of our search for God/Self Realization,we are like the people taking part in the village feast on the occasion of a marriage. Everybody talks a lot and very loudly too at the start of the feast.Thereafter,as the dishes appear one after another the talk starts sputtering out. By the end when the sweet yogurt is brought in and served, all one can hardly hear even the slurps. Similarly , the seeker after the Eternal Truth talks a lot in the beginning but Silence gets the better of him as he goes on realizing various aspects of the Truth till he falls silent fully engrossed in the Self Realization.
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by mikelomThat is the long and short of this isn't it? If God is real than those that reject Him
You speak like you 'assume' there is such a thing as God and a Holy Spirit. Do you believe on spirits, and ghosts and goulies?
You speak like you 'know' a person called Jesus walked this planet as the son of a God, and the son of man, purely because some book says so.
Vampires exist, did you know? Because Bavarian books say so, so Q.E.D. - they do!
...[text shortened]... Potter.
I wonder how much the 'makers' and creationalists of the bible made? 😏
-m.
have blinders on, they cannot and will not accept His hand in anything that may
show Him as real. The Atheist will not acknowledge the possibility God had anything
to do with creation or scripture because as soon as they even admit it looks like
God may have a hand in either, they have to acknowledge evidence supporting
God. It matters not if they accept God or the His handy work for God to be real,
since anything being real or not does not depend upon human beliefs no matter
how strong they are.
Kelly
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by FMFIf persons are subscribing to teachings that present error and falsity......... then you can answer the question yourself.
So you think there is nobody else on this forum who knows as much about God as you?
Can they know and understand God in truth....what do you say?
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by KellyJayYou are assuming that the Bible was inspired by God. What about the Koran ? What about the Veda's? What about the Book of Mormon ? What about the Teachings of the Buddha ? God apparently wrote a lot of different Books.
You speak like God has nothing to do with scripture, the Holy Spirit who was with
the people of faith were there before, during, and after Jesus walked among us
as a man.
Kelly
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by rvsakhadeo
Please permit me to relate a metaphor spoken by Ramakrishna Paramahans in this regard.
He says:- In the beginning of our search for God/Self Realization,we are like the people taking part in the village feast on the occasion of a marriage. Everybody talks a lot and very loudly too at the start of the feast.Thereafter,as the dishes appear one after anoth ...[text shortened]... izing various aspects of the Truth till he falls silent fully engrossed in the Self Realization.
13 Mar 11
Originally posted by buckkyHe was a busy man, with lots of publishing companies. Fair play to him! 😉
You are assuming that the Bible was inspired by God. What about the Koran ? What about the Veda's? What about the Book of Mormon ? What about the Teachings of the Buddha ? God apparently wrote a lot of different Books.