19 Apr 06
Originally posted by Brother EdwinCS Lewis's answer to this one was to realise that God doesn't 'foresee' what we are going to do in the future it's just that he is already seeing what you are going to do tomorrow. You are still free to do what you want tomorrow but the only reason God knows what you are doing tomorrow is because he is already there watching you do it. God experiences your life as one big 'now' . What you did yesterday , are doing now , and will do tomorrow are all experienced as 'now' for him. So in some sense he has no idea what you will do tomorrow until you do it but in another sense he does know (not because it is pre-determined) because he can simply watch you doing it.
Yes. God knows exactly what we do. If he didant he would not be all powerful.
19 Apr 06
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Originally posted by HalitoseIf God is outside time, whatever that means, then whatever has been, is, or will be, is all the same from His perspective. So, it's not as if he's waiting until we get to heaven or hell. Only we have to wait.
[b]If knightmeister is correct, then God already has skipped it...
Why?[/b]
19 Apr 06
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Originally posted by PawnokeyholeAh. Perhaps we have different definitions for "skipped".
If God is outside time, whatever that means, then whatever has been, is, or will be, is all the same from His perspective. So, it's not as if he's waiting until we get to heaven or hell. Only we have to wait.
Edit: I thought you meant it as in: "abscond".
21 Apr 06
Originally posted by knightmeisterWhich book did Lewis write this, or was it in a book? I do not recall
CS Lewis's answer to this one was to realise that God doesn't 'foresee' what we are going to do in the future it's just that he is already seeing what you are going to do tomorrow. You are still free to do what you want tomorrow but the only reason God knows what you are doing tomorrow is because he is already there watching you do it. God experiences ...[text shortened]... does know (not because it is pre-determined) because he can simply watch you doing it.
that, but like the perspective.
Kelly
23 Apr 06
Originally posted by Brother EdwinIts a unpurposeful question as god only exists in our narratives as does father christmas for children
Since god knows(and has chosen) exactly where we will end up why dosent he skip it all and just put is in heaven or hell straght away.
23 Apr 06
Originally posted by knightmeisterLet's see. Lewis' mental idol created the universe without knowing for certain whether it would fall or not (free will came from somewhere else). He was certain, however, that it could fall because he designed it with that possiblity.
CS Lewis's answer to this one was to realise that God doesn't 'foresee' what we are going to do in the future it's just that he is already seeing what you are going to do tomorrow. You are still free to do what you want tomorrow but the only reason God knows what you are doing tomorrow is because he is already there watching you do it. God experiences ...[text shortened]... does know (not because it is pre-determined) because he can simply watch you doing it.
So he gets bored twiddling his useless opposable thumbs in the Void and decides to role the proverbial dice. He chooses to gamble, to create. And in the very instant when he actualizes the universe, he sees everything, every bad choices, every needless suffering, every precious soul damned to unending torture. Suddenly, he realizes the monumental significance of what has just occurred: a perfect god made his first mistake.
Thus, if we humor Tommy Cochrane . . . I mean C.S. Lewis, God changes from infinitely cruel to infinitely negligent.