Incomes relative to Religions in USA.

Originally posted by mikelom
“Income levels of America’s major religious groups compared to the average U.S. income distribution.
Over $100,000 per year:”

8% Black Christians
9% of Jehovah’s Witnesses
13% of Evangelicals
16% Mormons
16% Muslim
18% National Average
18% (Other)
19% Unaffiliated
19% Catholic
21% Christian (Mainline)
22% Buddhist
23% Christian (other)
28% ...[text shortened]... the USA...... ahum?

What say ye white American Christians about this diversive?

-m. 🙁

What are trying to show here, someone’s work ethic is better, or that somehow someone is cheating?
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
What are trying to show here, someone’s work ethic is better, or that somehow someone is cheating?
Kelly

That Jehovahs witnesses are the least materialistic of all denominations. Why? because
they heed the counsel of the Christ, not top be storing up treasures, where moth and
rust consume.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
That Jehovahs witnesses are the least materialistic of all denominations. Why? because
they heed the counsel of the Christ, not top be storing up treasures, where moth and
rust consume.

Why would there be any at all with over $100,000 per year?

Originally posted by FMF
Why would there be any at all with over $100,000 per year?

Perhaps they are part time judges, lawyers, doctors, persons with businesses. Perhaps
they are materialistic, but nine percent compared to 46% of Jews and Hindu's is highly
significant. It is of course no coincidence that what we teach with regard to the
acquisition of material wealth has a bearing on our income, as the study clearly indicates.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Perhaps they are part time judges, lawyers, doctors, persons with businesses. Perhaps
they are materialistic, but nine percent compared to 46% of Jews and Hindu's is highly
significant. It is of course no coincidence that what we teach with regard to the
acquisition of material wealth has a bearing on our income, as the study clearly indicates.

In your view, are the Jehovah's Witnesses who are the most materialistic, say those that earn more than $100,000, therefore the least characteristic in terms of both the reality and the ideal for Jehovah's Witnesses?

Originally posted by FMF
In your view, are the Jehovah's Witnesses who are the most materialistic, say those that earn more than $100,000, therefore the least characteristic in terms of both the reality and the ideal for Jehovah's Witnesses?

Its up to their consciences what they do, never the less, they are, as the study
demonstrates, not typical, representing only 9 percent over all, I thought this fact
would be self evident from the figures, apparently not. The ideal is to be a loving and
caring Christian, wealth or lack of has absolutely no bearing on this capacity.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Its up to their consciences what they do, never the less, they are, as the study
demonstrates, not typical, representing only 9 percent over all, I thought this fact
would be self evident from the figures, apparently not. The ideal is to be a loving and
caring Christian, wealth or lack of has absolutely no bearing on this capacity.

You said that Jehovah's Witnesses are the least materialistic of all denominations "because they heed the counsel of the Christ" not to be materialistic. So I don't quite see how a couple of posts later you can claim that "wealth or lack of has absolutely no bearing" on their capacity to be a Christian, and to be a Christian who follows Christ's counsel that you cited.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Its up to their consciences what they do, never the less, they are, as the study
demonstrates, not typical, representing only 9 percent over all, I thought this fact
would be self evident from the figures, apparently not.

By being "not typical", in terms of their materialism, are the 9% who earn over $100,000 a year further away from the ideals that are manifested in Jehovah's Witnesses who make up the other 81%, or indeed those who earn considerably less?

Originally posted by FMF
By being "not typical", in terms of their materialism, are the 9% who earn over $100,000 a year further away from the ideals that are manifested in Jehovah's Witnesses who make up the other 81%, or indeed those who earn considerably less?

I have already answered this, i will not do so again, what is it about the ideals of being
a loving and caring Christian are not dependent upon wealth or lack of that you do not
understand?

Originally posted by FMF
You said that Jehovah's Witnesses are the least materialistic of all denominations "because they heed the counsel of the Christ" not to be materialistic. So I don't quite see how a couple of posts later you can claim that "wealth or lack of has absolutely no bearing" on their capacity to be a Christian, and to be a Christian who follows Christ's counsel that you cited.

One can be wealthy and not be the least materialistic, one can be poor and be
materialistic, materialism is not dependent upon wealth or lack of, its a state of mind. I
realise that this takes some spiritual comprehension to understand, perhaps that's why
you are having difficulties, these things being examined, spiritually.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
One can be wealthy and not be the least materialistic, one can be poor and be materialistic, materialism is not dependent upon wealth or lack of, its a state of mind. I realise that this takes some spiritual comprehension to understand, perhaps that's why you are having difficulties, these things are examined, spiritually.

If, as you say, "[o]ne can be wealthy and not be the least materialistic, one can be poor and be materialistic, materialism is not dependent upon wealth or lack of", then why did you draw conclusions specifically about "materialism" from the statistics about "wealth" in the OP?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have already answered this, i will not do so again, what is it about the ideals of being
a loving and caring Christian are not dependent upon wealth or lack of that you do not
understand?

Because I am not talking about the "loving and caring" aspect of being a Christian that you have since introduced. I am talking specifically about what you claimed to be Christ's counsel with regard to "materialism" which is another aspect of being a Christian, and the one I am asking you about. Are the 9% of people in your denomination who earn over $100,000 annually, more remote from - or in danger of being more remote from - the ideal that less wealthy Jehovah's Witnesses perhaps personify in their efforts to follow the counsel of Christ about "materialism" that you yourself quoted earlier?

Originally posted by FMF
If, as you say, "[o]ne can be wealthy and not be the least materialistic, one can be poor and be materialistic, materialism is not dependent upon wealth or lack of", then why did you draw conclusions specifically about "materialism" from the statistics about "wealth" in the OP?

why, isn't that obvious, 9 percent is the smallest of any of the denominations and there
must be a reason for it, how else are we to account for 46 percent of Jews and Hindus,
in comparison? I believe that its a materialistic disposition, for we are counselled to
avoid materialism, this is the reason for the disparity, you are of course free to dispute
the claim, but its my belief, or offer your own reasons.

Originally posted by FMF
Because I am not talking about the "loving and caring" aspect of being a Christian that you have since introduced. I am talking specifically about what you claimed to be Christ's counsel with regard to "materialism" which is another aspect of being a Christian, and the one I am asking you about. Are the 9% of people in your denomination who earn over $100,000 an ts to follow the counsel of Christ about "materialism" that you yourself quoted earlier?

you asked abut the ideal, i told you what the ideal was, you have no idea what you are
talking about to be honest, remote??? the less wealthy personify the ideal? clearly you
have not the slightest idea what you are talking about. Being a loving and caring
Christian is what personifies the ideal, please don't be so thoroughly tedious.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
why, isn't that obvious, 9 percent is the smallest of any of the denominations and there
must be a reason for it, how else are we to account for 46 percent of Jews and Hindus,
in comparison? I believe that its a materialistic disposition, for we are counselled to
avoid materialism, this is the reason for the disparity, you are of course free to dispute
the claim, but its my belief, or offer your own reasons.

You've just said, and I quote, "One can be wealthy and not be the least materialistic, one can be poor and be materialistic, materialism is not dependent upon wealth or lack of". So if this true for the 9% of Jehovah's Witnesses who earn over $100,000 a year, why can't it also be true of the
13% of Evangelicals or the 16% of Mormons or the 19% of Catholics, for instance, who do the same?