06 Jun 05
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Originally posted by ColettiFollowing your logic, I must warn you about the error of your thinking. Your negative actions from both this and previous lives will propel you to a new birth of uncertain, possibly unbearable, suffering.
But there's nothing wrong with warning people they are heading for a cliff.
06 Jun 05
Originally posted by ColettiRBHill's 'Good People' go to Hell is just one example.
I can't say for sure who's gonna burn and who's going to glory. But there's nothing wrong with warning people they are heading for a cliff. Has anyone here been personally condemned to hell - any one in particular - or is it just a general thing?
Another thing is, if we were in a car together... and I was driving really fast... you might say, "you might want to slow down, you could go off the cliff". I'd say, "Fine, but I know what I'm doing". Heck, I might even pump the brakes.
Next you say, "Slow down, there is a cliff ahead". I say, "Yeah, I heard you the first time... and I slowed down already".
Next you say, "No, really! Careful of the cliff".
"Dude, relax! Come to think of it, there aren’t any cliffs around here... what are you going on about?!"
Next you say, "Really, slow down... there is a cliff".
Anyway, warning of a cliff is fine... but don't over do it. Next, no one has ever been insulted by someone warning them they are going off a cliff. People have different ideas about how the world works, your ideas are not better than any other ideas in my mind. Think I'm going to hell, that is up to you... but you are wrong. Keep saying it, and you are insulting MY beliefs.
ES
06 Jun 05
Originally posted by PhlabibitI think you are taking a general warning personally. And maybe you should. But going from my general warning to an insult to your personal beliefs is something you must decided.
RBHill's 'Good People' go to Hell is just one example.
Another thing is, if we were in a car together... and I was driving really fast... you might say, "you might want to slow down, you could go off the cliff". I'd say, "Fine, but I know what I'm doing". Heck, I might even pump the brakes.
Next you say, "Slow down, there is a cliff ahe ...[text shortened]... t is up to you... but you are wrong. Keep saying it, and you are insulting MY beliefs.
ES
A lot of "good people" will go to hell because according to my belief system, being "good" is not the thing that can save you. Just because in your mind "this idea" of mine is no better than anyone else's, does not change the fact that my belief system also includes a moral obligation to warn you. Would you expect someone to violate their conscience in order to not offend? And regardless if the message could be presented in a less offensive way - it is still better to offend, then be morally negligent.
RB or any other Christian is better off being offensive than silent in violation of his beliefs. To be silent would be unloving.
06 Jun 05
Originally posted by ColettiYep, and this is why it has always struck me as flat wrong when people argue that the religious beliefs of others ought to remain private, or seperated from the political arena. I don't begrudge anybody their right to speak openly about their religious beliefs, and I hope nobody begrudges my right to harshly criticize those religious beliefs that are patently absurd.
I think you are taking a general warning personally. And maybe you should. But going from my general warning to an insult to your personal beliefs is something you must decided.
A lot of "good people" will go to hell because according to my belief system, being "good" is not the thing that can save you. Just because in your mind "this idea" of ...[text shortened]... er off being offensive than silent in violation of his beliefs. To be silent would be unloving.
06 Jun 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeI said equal. See this has been my complaint all along. Equality is'nt the demise of civilisation ivanhoe. Untill men and women are equal in all regards you have nothing but a fallacy. Concepts of free will fall flat on their face if one person can not make the same choice as another.
That religion is called Feminism.