Ireland votes to oust ‘medieval’ blasphemy law

@bigdoggproblem said
I am a bit more flexible with my concept of "religious". To me, one aspect of religion is practice. Thus, there can be religious atheists (Taoists, Buddhists, etc) and non-religious theists (say, Deists, some of whom may think there's no need for such practice, or other apathetic theists).

@fmf said
Fair enough. But I'm not so much imterested in the practices of people here but rather in their ideology. It is with this in mind that I use the word religionist.

@fmf said
You mean divegeester? He's a religionist. Of course he is. "Astonishing"? It's not the slightest bit controversial for me to say so. Both of you are religionists. I am not. Ghost of a Duke is not. Anyone believing someone rose from the dead and this somehow had some sort of supernatural effect on those who believe it and, as long as you subscribe to certain religious doctrines, p ...[text shortened]... anyone who believes stuff like this within the context of a religion is a "religionist" in my book.

@suzianne said
Again, why don't you ask HIM if he's a "religionist"?

He clearly hasn't posted because he tends not to like to disagree with you.

As I said, it's amazing and a little sad that you do not know this about him.

@chaney3 said
Real friends disagree about things, and discuss those things. Dive and FMF do not publicly debate with each other on this forum, which is clearly obvious to everyone, and makes their so called friendship seem less genuine.

This is a spirituality forum where FMF is an agnostic atheist, and Dive is a Christian, yet they don't disagree on topics???

It's wrong.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I recall them having a couple of 'heated' conversations in this forum. I'm sure others do as well.

Similarly, I've crossed swords with both in my time. (They fared pretty well and were gracious in defeat).

😳

@chaney3 said
You've also shown humility on this forum when I've defeated you in debates. It's a good quality.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
In fairness sir, those victories occurred in your imagination, not in this forum.

@chaney3 said
Stop.
I've clearly whooped you in some debates.

@suzianne said
And this is yet another term you use incorrectly.

@chaney3 said
Real friends disagree about things, and discuss those things. Dive and FMF do not publicly debate with each other on this forum, which is clearly obvious to everyone, and makes their so called friendship seem less genuine.

This is a spirituality forum where FMF is an agnostic atheist, and Dive is a Christian, yet they don't disagree on topics???

It's wrong.

@suzianne said
Being "religious" is not the same as being a "religionist".

Pakistan acquits Christian woman on death row

A Pakistani court has overturned the death sentence of a Christian woman convicted of blasphemy, a case that has polarised the nation.

Asia Bibi was convicted in 2010 after being accused of insulting the Prophet Muhammad in a row with her neighbours.

She always maintained her innocence, but has spent most of the past eight years in solitary confinement.

The landmark ruling has already set off protests by hardliners who support strong blasphemy laws.

There was a heavy police presence at the Supreme Court in Islamabad as many feared violence could break out.

People have also been gathering for protests against the verdict in Karachi, Lahore and Peshawar, and hundreds blocked a road between Rawalpindi and Islamabad, Dawn newspaper reported.

Chief Justice Saqib Nisarm, who read out the ruling, said Asia Bibi could walk free from jail in Sheikupura, near Lahore, immediately if not wanted in connection with any other case.

She was not in court to hear the ruling, but reacted to the verdict from prison with apparent disbelief.

What was Asia Bibi accused of?

The trial stems from an argument Asia Bibi, whose full name is Asia Noreen, had with a group of women in June 2009.

They were harvesting fruit when a row broke out about a bucket of water. The women said that because she had used a cup, they could no longer touch it, as her faith had made it unclean.

Prosecutors alleged that in the row which followed, the women said Asia Bibi should convert to Islam and that she made three offensive comments about the Prophet Muhammad in response.

She was later beaten up at her home, during which her accusers say she confessed to blasphemy. She was arrested after a police investigation.

@fmf said

Campaigners in Ireland celebrated the end of a “medieval” ban on blasphemy on Saturday, after voters overwhelmingly supported a referendum to remove the offence from the constitution.

Almost 65% of voters supported the move – a total of 951,650 people – with just over 35% (515,808) in favour of retaining it, on a turnout of just over 43%.

The decision was the latest ...[text shortened]... stitution.

Whole article: https://tinyurl.com/y8b2mr2j

Which way would you have voted?

Six votes for repealing the blasphemy law in Ireland.

One vote for keeping it.

Just banter from badradger, chaney3 and whodey.