16 Jul 23
@mike69 saidThere has been no "hate".
Then why are you promoting more when you started attacking my personhood if you feel this way? Not to mention my faith which you jumped the gun on and went way overboard on me even if it was funny.
Disagreeing with you on a debate forum or drawing contrasts between what you believe and what I believe is not "hate".
Your "personhood" has not been "attacked".
I mentioned your faith because this is a Spirituality Forum and, if you are a Christian, and I take your word for it, then I know full well that your faith is a prism through which you see every moral and philosophical question.
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16 Jul 23
@fmf saidOutrage manufacturer 😂😂. You’re a lying joke who doesn’t answer anything yet expects the world from everyone else when replying to you and you all wise and proper words.. it doesn’t matter how you personally write anything, a lying flake is a lying flake and everyone sees you. Why are you so unhappy inside, making a change starts with you it’s not easy but try and get your mind out of that fishbowl.
There has been no "hate" towards you.
16 Jul 23
@mike69 saidI'm not interested in your banter.
Outrage manufacturer 😂😂. You’re a lying joke who doesn’t answer anything yet expects the world from everyone else when replying to you and you all wise and proper words.. it doesn’t matter how you personally write anything, a lying flake is a lying flake and everyone sees you. Why are you so unhappy inside, making a change starts with you it’s not easy but try and get your mind out of that fishbowl.
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16 Jul 23
@fmf saidSo that was you being nice judging me without a question on the other thread. Don’t forget all the kind words you spoke here without asking a question first? What’s funny is you worry about a left out question mark and don’t mind not asking one before judging and going overboard. Should we all just accept what you say here because you’re so smart. Why the high almighty act you put on all the time, does it make you feel important when you’re not at home?
There has been no "hate".
Disagreeing with you on a debate forum or drawing contrasts between what you believe and what I believe is not "hate".
Your "personhood" has not been "attacked".
I mentioned your faith because this is a Spirituality Forum and, if you are a Christian, and I take your word for it, then I know full well that your faith is a prism through which you see every moral and philosophical question.
@mike69 saidI wasn't judging your faith. I was calling you out for your trolling which makes up about 80-90% of your posting. Your post addressed to vivify was deeply hypocritical.
So that was you being nice judging me without a question on the other thread. Don’t forget all the kind words you spoke here without asking a question first? What’s funny is you worry about a left out question mark and don’t mind not asking one before judging and going overboard. Should we all just accept what you say here because you’re so smart. Why the high almighty act you put on all the time, does it make you feel important when you’re not at home?
@vivify saidThe more pertinent thing about a goldfish in a bowl is that it has a problem with memory. Consciousness with little or no memory would be very rudimentary and not humanlike. Our access to our memories and ability to analyze them lies at the very core of our conscience and ability to govern how we interact with others.
What is the "world" to a fish in a fishbowl? It's entire world is that fishbowl and it has no ability to realize there's a world outside of it. Sure, it can see through the glass but can it understand that it's actually looking at images beyond its walls? Or does it regard them the same way early humans thought the stars were part of Earth's sky like clouds?
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16 Jul 23
@fmf saidYes it’s used for that as individuals, in our individual family ~local consciousness, beliefs, and basic construct for a set of interactions that exist in each of our personal goldfish bowls. This limits interactions with other systems and types of fish to what is seen and heard combined with each environment. How do we arise to a collective consciousness where we understand and appreciate one another as when we’re all in the same tank as we are? Some tanks may be bigger and nicer but overall the things you mention between interactions and on are formed and nurtured in each of our little tanks comparably. Agree or disagree?
The more pertinent thing about a goldfish in a bowl is that it has a problem with memory. Consciousness with little or no memory would be very rudimentary and not humanlike. Our access to our memories and ability to analyze them lies at the very core of our conscience and ability to govern how we interact with others.
16 Jul 23
@mike69 saidI think the "personal goldfish bowls" analogy is a dud. Goldfish have virtually no memory at all. As I said, consciousness with no memory would perhaps not really be consciousness at all.
Yes it’s used for that as individuals, in our individual family ~local consciousness, beliefs, and basic construct for a set of interactions that exist in each of our personal goldfish bowls. This limits interactions with other systems and types of fish to what is seen and heard combined with each environment. How do we arise to a collective consciousness where we understand ...[text shortened]... eractions and on are formed and nurtured in each of our little tanks comparably. Agree or disagree?