Originally posted by josephwWhat about a hypothetical person who has reached the age of accountability but has never even heard of Christ?
Good point!
I'll rephrase.
Only those of the age of accountability who have trusted in Christ go to heaven, and those who die before the age of accountability go to heaven too.
Also, what about gay folks who trust in Christ? Won't they contaminate heaven with all their gayness if they are let in?
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesIf I may, let me mess this up more for you. What about those in 12 Step programs where they seek to have a relationship with "the God of their understanding"?
As it turns out, you're right. I just conducted a computer simulation, the complexity of which is far too great to elaborate upon here, to arrive at estimates of the expected proportion of each group that goes to heaven, included in the revised list below:
1. Catholics: 96%
2. Protestants: 92%
3. Mormons: 41%
4. Jews: 23%
5. Muslims: 7.7 ...[text shortened]... Hindus: 7.1%
7. Buddhists: 6.8%
8. Agnostics: 6.1%
9. Atheists: 6.0%
10. Satanists: 5.1%
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesAre we talking about the chance that a member of a given religion / belief system /ideology / lack of belief system gets into heaven or the chance that a given belief system is right and therefore every member gets into heaven?
As it turns out, you're right. I just conducted a computer simulation, the complexity of which is far too great to elaborate upon here, to arrive at estimates of the expected proportion of each group that goes to heaven, included in the revised list below:
1. Catholics: 96%
2. Protestants: 92%
3. Mormons: 41%
4. Jews: 23%
5. Muslims: 7.7 ...[text shortened]... Hindus: 7.1%
7. Buddhists: 6.8%
8. Agnostics: 6.1%
9. Atheists: 6.0%
10. Satanists: 5.1%
I assume the former as atheists being right could not really get them into heaven could it?
So you are saying that out of every 1000 satanists, God lets 51 into heaven? I guess that the only way to punish and satanist (who clearly wants to get to hell), is to put in him heaven.
But then we really should have distinguished between the Satanists who are theists that pray to Satan and the Satanists who are Atheists that use Satan to make Christians uncomfortable.
Originally posted by DoctorScribbleslol i am going to hell.
I have listed the following groups in descending order of likelihood of going to heaven. Please suggest any revisions to help me get this straight if I am mistaken.
1. Catholics
2. Protestants
3. Mormons
4. Jews
5. Muslims
6. Buddhists
7. Hindus
8. Agnostics
9. Atheists
10. Satanists
anyone heard of the orthodox religion? the greeks and russians and of course the badass romanians are very pissed at you
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesBuddhists, Atheists and Satanists going to heaven???
I have listed the following groups in descending order of likelihood of going to heaven. Please suggest any revisions to help me get this straight if I am mistaken.
1. Catholics
2. Protestants
3. Mormons
4. Jews
5. Muslims
6. Buddhists
7. Hindus
8. Agnostics
9. Atheists
10. Satanists
I guess even if you don't believe in heaven you can end up there.
Originally posted by josephwOld testament god as depicted in the bible is clearly a psychopath. Wiping out cities and encouraging the men of Israel to take women and female children as plunder of war are the actions of a criminal lunatic by modern standards. I hope this clarifies what I think of Yahweh, his apologist Christ and his sheep followers.
God always receives children into heaven. What kind of a guy do you think He is?
Originally posted by Diodorus Siculus"I hope this clarifies what I think..."
Old testament god as depicted in the bible is clearly a psychopath. Wiping out cities and encouraging the men of Israel to take women and female children as plunder of war are the actions of a criminal lunatic by modern standards. I hope this clarifies what I think of Yahweh, his apologist Christ and his sheep followers.
It only clarifies your ignorance.
Originally posted by josephwThanks for that christian. So I take it you condone all the actions of old testament angry god (Yahweh)? He really does sound like a blood thirsty lunatic. What sort of god is this anyway? So angry with the world and the people he allegedly created and then, to calm himself down, demanded the blood of his own son (who was also himself..) to buy off your own wrath against your pets? It is absurd and glad I don't waste too much time on it except for comic value. You couldn't make it up or actually you could and we did.
[b]"I hope this clarifies what I think..."
It only clarifies your ignorance.[/b]
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesWhat makes you think this order is correct?
I have listed the following groups in descending order of likelihood of going to heaven. Please suggest any revisions to help me get this straight if I am mistaken.
1. Catholics
2. Protestants
3. Mormons
4. Jews
5. Muslims
6. Buddhists
7. Hindus
8. Agnostics
9. Atheists
10. Satanists
Kelly