Originally posted by Proper KnobNo its not the same, we try to make reparation and the door is always open for a prodigal son and it only effects baptised witnesses, if my son were to become a Muslim tomorrow, as an unbaptised witness he would not be disfellowshipped, nor disowned. Also we are not in the habit of tying people up, putting them in the boot of a car and threatening to throw them from a bridge.
Family disowns son after he chooses to change religion. Isn't that exactly what your organisation does?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe principle is exactly the same. That you refuse to see it is hardly surprising.
No its not the same, we try to make reparation and the door is always open for a prodigal son and it only effects baptised witnesses, if my son were to become a Muslim tomorrow, as an unbaptised witness he would not be disfellowshipped, nor disowned. Also we are not in the habit of tying people up, putting them in the boot of a car and threatening to throw them from a bridge.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieReparation = "Come back to our religion or we'll disfellowship you." Right?
No its not the same, we try to make reparation and the door is always open for a prodigal son and it only effects baptised witnesses, if my son were to become a Muslim tomorrow, as an unbaptised witness he would not be disfellowshipped, nor disowned. Also we are not in the habit of tying people up, putting them in the boot of a car and threatening to throw them from a bridge.
If I'm wrong, tell me an alternate acceptable means of reparation.
Originally posted by divegeesterI did not critise any religion I merely mentioned what happened and you in your ardour to teach me nothing did exactly that. I have nothing to gain from corresponding with you absolutely nothing and will refrain from doing so until you have something worth reading.
You criticised a religion for doing exactly what your religion does and I called you on it. Have you nothing more to say than this childish petulant retort?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou're a hypocrite robbie, plain and simple.
I did not critise any religion I merely mentioned what happened and you in your ardour to teach me nothing did exactly that. I have nothing to gain from corresponding with you absolutely nothing and will refrain from doing so until you have something worth reading.
Actually I find it equally revealing and amusing that you feel comfortable criticising a Muslim family for ostracising a family member who became a JW, when the internet hosts a plethora of help sites for ex JWs who have been ostracised for leaving your church.
You couldn't make this stuff up, it's why I love coming to this forum.
Originally posted by divegeesterBut aren't members of ANY organized religions hypocrites at their heart? All of them pretending they are following a real god when 100% of ALL of those religions are following man made god's in the first place?
You're a hypocrite robbie, plain and simple.
Actually I find it equally revealing and amusing that you feel comfortable criticising a Muslim family for ostracising a family member who became a JW, when the internet hosts a plethora of help sites for ex JWs who have been ostracised for leaving your church.
You couldn't make this stuff up, it's why I love coming to this forum.
Pretending all this bullshyte came from a god who happens to have human attributes? Like 'I am a jealous god'?
How stupid do you think people are to believe such rot?
Oh wait, I forgot, that rot has already duped about 2 billion people.
A GREAT illustration of the intelligence of the human race.
Yeah, a god who can make entire frigging UNIVERSES would be JEALOUS of humans? Sure, it could happen. Maybe on Saturday Night Live but not in the REAL universe.
Originally posted by sonhouseYou don't understand. God loves us humans most of all of His creations. God is jealous that we would turn to another instead of him. Satan wishes to turn us away from God. That is why Satan tempted Eve to disobey God's instructions. Now do you get it?
But aren't members of ANY organized religions hypocrites at their heart? All of them pretending they are following a real god when 100% of ALL of those religions are following man made god's in the first place?
Pretending all this bullshyte came from a god who happens to have human attributes? Like 'I am a jealous god'?
How stupid do you think peopl ...[text shortened]... OUS of humans? Sure, it could happen. Maybe on Saturday Night Live but not in the REAL universe.
Originally posted by RJHindsRight. A god who can make UNIVERSES jealous of humans. Let your god come down and tell me that, till then it is just another religious scam, among many.
You don't understand. God loves us humans most of all of His creations. God is jealous that we would turn to another instead of him. Satan wishes to turn us away from God. That is why Satan tempted Eve to disobey God's instructions. Now do you get it?