19 Jun 07
Originally posted by scottishinnzStill want to argue that Christians are the "best protected bunch" on the planet? How many other world religions can you show have equal or higher rates of persecution (either in absolute #s or %s) for their faith?
There are also more christians alive today than all the previous generations combined.
Heck, despite the 24/7 MSM coverage assigned to the Iraq fiasco, the ethnic cleansing of Iraqi Christians receives virtually no coverage at all!
19 Jun 07
Originally posted by whodeyYou didn't read my post carefully. According to the news stories and wikipedia article I looked up, nobody is making a claim of 2 million deaths except the article you cited. So if all sides in the conflict are claiming a maximum of less that half a million then why is your ref quoting 2 million? Gross exaggeration to say the least.
I mean, where are all the dead Muslims if the number of dead Christians totaled 2 million if it were a two sided affair?
You do raise a good objection in assuming that ALL of the southern Sudanese are "Christian". I mean, what society on earth is all "Christian"? However, you must realize that those that persecute the southern region are not Christian they are Muslim. I think for many Muslims, their faith is more a political philosophy than spiritual in nature, thus they see their religion practicing Sharia law and the Christians practicing Christianity in their respective governments. In fact, many Muslims view America and Bush as Christian Crusaders. If my religion was mostly political in nature I would assume as much as well. I really do think that they see the struggle in terms of fighting "Christianity" even though it may be far from the truth.
Again you didn't read what I said. According to Wikipedia both sides of the conflict are Muslim so how are they fighting Christianity by killing each other and why do Christians feel persecuted by it?
19 Jun 07
Originally posted by twhiteheadWikipedia isn't wrong -- you're just reading the wrong article (more specifically, the wrong conflict in Sudan). Try these articles:
Can anyone back up that figure?
A recent news story said that the rebels were claiming 450,000 deaths and the government figure is around 10,000.
2 million seems like serious gross exaggeration making me think that some of the other claims are probably inaccurate or exaggerated too.
According to Wikkipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janjaweed
...[text shortened]... urce and land allocation.
Where are the Christians dying in all this? Or is wikkipedia wrong?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sudanese_Civil_War
http://www.uscirf.gov/countries/publications/policyfocus/sudan_policy_brief.pdf
The Darfur conflict is in western Sudan. The persecution being referred to is in the South.
19 Jun 07
Originally posted by shavixmirI think we should have a International save an Atheist day....actually every day is that but i want it recognised...who's with me on that one?!😵
Praise be!
Hella yeah! There's international black day, international woman's day, international gay day, international secretary day, international mother's, father's, children's and old age-pensioners day...
But there's a definate lack of international white, heterosexual, single, childless man's day.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, and I ...[text shortened]... ttle Xians hiding behind plackards at the front door.
Go forth and punch them!
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by Jay JoosThat doesn't count because they deserved it. They were part of a religion that said the Romans were immoral because of their anal antics.
Leave them alone....they were fed to lions once....they have suffered enough!!!!
The Romans said go away or shut up or be fed to lions.
Clearly they chose being fed to lions (by not going away or shutting up) and therefore deserved it.
And what good did it do em eh? Stupid Christians. Tut tut.
20 Jun 07
Not meaning to offend, but I hope many of the posts I read are jokes.
Punch a Christian day?- that idea reflects an intolerance aggressive attitude
The comments about Christians deserving suffering in Roman times. Firstly I would recommend a little bit of research of the early Roman empire. Secondly I can think of a few more incidents were Chrstians suffered.
I myself am not a Christian so I can understand, theism followers can be trying and irrating.I personally believe that some problems in society are encouraged by religion. I apolgise if I seem patronisng but one word - Tolerance
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by lucifershammerThere is a fundamental difference between people being persecuted for their faith and people being persecuted for simply existing, who just happen to be a particular faith.
Still want to argue that Christians are the "best protected bunch" on the planet? How many other world religions can you show have equal or higher rates of persecution (either in absolute #s or %s) for their faith?
Heck, despite the 24/7 MSM coverage assigned to the Iraq fiasco, the ethnic cleansing of Iraqi Christians receives virtually no coverage at all!
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by 123rocoStop trying to introduce logic and tolerance to these forums! Such insolence will not be tolerated, and boy, do WE know how to be intolerant!!!
Not meaning to offend, but I hope many of the posts I read are jokes.
Punch a Christian day?- that idea reflects an intolerance aggressive attitude
The comments about Christians deserving suffering in Roman times. Firstly I would recommend a little bit of research of the early Roman empire. Secondly I can think of a few more incidents were Chrstians su ...[text shortened]... in society are encouraged by religion. I apolgise if I seem patronisng but one word - Tolerance
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by 123roco"...celebrate everything we hate about [Christians]..."
Tolerance
"Well, that's certainly true if you're a follower of Allan. (pig dung be upon him.)"
"Clearly [Christians] chose being fed to lions...and therefore deserved it."
[WORD TOO LONG]
Sounds like some people here could really use a dose or two of tolerance. I agree completely, I sure hope these are in good humor. Some of them are on that very fragile line between intolerance and good humor.
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by pawnhandlerI'd cry for you. Especially if you go for the ankles or other such places.
It's never fun to kick the willing. They forget to cry.
Edit: Jesus would do karate. He'd bow respectfully first. Then kick.
Well, I can agree with Jesus then. I think we'd have a good fight! I love my karate training!