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Originally posted by twhiteheadi did not lie, infact i named not only the scientist who carried out the experiments, whom i doubt you have ever heard of and the genus of the creature that he was experimenting with, and i gave a quotation, from his own book, on his conclusions. You on the other hand have nothing of content to your posts except your now obligatory trade mark, the personal attack, wicked and ignorant materialist that you are of which this post is another example.
Yes, you lied about 'no new species'.
you slanderous ignorant and wicked imbecile,[/b]
Insult me all you like, it wont go away.
you were the one who claimed to know he difference between soul and spirit and have proffered nothing![/b]
How is that relevant to your lying?
As soon as anyone disagrees with your second hand purely unorigina and your religion will disappear in a puff of smoke. You will have become a vampire!
it is relevant as a character witness against the type of person you are, you have claimed to know quite well the difference, when asked now for a third time to produce it, you proffer nothing because you dont know. You lied, that is why it is relevant, that is why you are lying now, because that is the type of person you are.
I only hope that in the future i remain free from the type of no good, nothing constructive, slanderous and utterly deviod of any type of reasonable spirituality that you portray, your contribution to the fora is negligible and amounts to nothing more than one personal opinion after another, masquerading as truth. Give it up, we learn nothing from your posts, nothing!
28 Feb 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOk, oh genius of Christianity...
Yes Lord Vader, ill try harder, but now that you mention it, please in the light of your evolutionary apostatising, could you give the forum you interpretation of this verse, the words of Jesus i believe!
(Matthew 19:4) . . .In reply he said: “Did you not read that he who [b]created them from the beginning made them male and female
a direc ...[text shortened]... in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. . .[/b]
Tell me this: Exactly, and I mean exactly, HOW did He create them?
Is your brain so small that you cannot fathom that in a universe of His creation, already existing, He simply created man, male and female, according to the LAWS of physics in the universe that He had made?
Evolution was His framework of His creation.
I'm also guessing you did not follow my link to Evolutionary Creation to even see what it was about, did you?
You cannot simply sit there, and repeat ad nauseum, that He CREATED them, He CREATED them, He CREATED them, without backing that up with HOW did He create them. I'm saying EVOLUTION is HOW He created them. Come on, Robbie, it's not that hard to comprehend.
28 Feb 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou're just scared, it's nothing more than that. You're afraid of what will happen to your 'closed minded' world if the words of this book seep into your brain (you even admitted so). Be brave Rob.
no way, i have enough books to read at the moment, two chess books and now ol Darwins epic thriller!
At least we established one thing in this discussion, you are closed minded, you certainly don't have a 'free' mind as you like to claim, and as much as you protest your rejection of evolutionary theory is nothing more than an argumentum ad ignorantiam.
One day you can be as open minded as me Rob. 😉
28 Feb 11
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Originally posted by SuzianneI see you are still pursuing, if you dont believe it your ignorant, lol what a borg! assimilate, resistance is futile, you must think like me, assimilate! if you dont your ignorant, assimilate! First Lord Vader and now the Borg, muhaha!
Ok, oh genius of Christianity...
Tell me this: Exactly, and I mean exactly, HOW did He create them?
Is your brain so small that you cannot fathom that in a universe of His creation, already existing, He simply created man, male and female, according to the LAWS of physics in the universe that He had made?
Evolution was His framework of His creat saying EVOLUTION is HOW He created them. Come on, Robbie, it's not that hard to comprehend.
Your point of course is not an attempt to answer the question, but to side step it, the fact remains, they did not evolve, they were created, without precedent! There is no scriptural nor scientific basis for assuming that evolution was his framework, indeed, the book of genesis, from which Christ quotes, states quite clearly that everything was created according to its kind, perhaps this fact escaped your notice, according to its kind, not through a process of transmutation as postulated by you and the materialists. In fact, it rules out entirely an evolutionary framework. Capiche!
For your information, seeing that you are having some trouble grasping it despite some pretensions to the contrary, i did not write the verse, it is quoted as the words of Jesus, not mine. I merely have put trust in it as truth.
Perhaps if you spent less time trying to convince those around you that you are an intellectual giant because you can assimilate and regurgitate the ideas of others, claiming that its knowledge you would do better.
genius of Christianity, i like that, hear that Noobster, genius! recognition at last!
28 Feb 11
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Originally posted by Proper KnobOne day you can be as open minded as me Rob
You're just scared, it's nothing more than that. You're afraid of what will happen to your 'closed minded' world if the words of this book seep into your brain (you even admitted so). Be brave Rob.
At least we established one thing in this discussion, you are closed minded, you certainly don't have a 'free' mind as you like to claim, and as much as yo ...[text shortened]... n argumentum ad ignorantiam.
One day you can be as open minded as me Rob. 😉
Actually i had my spell with hallucinogenics, its was awesome at the time, but it had to pass!
28 Feb 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOf course I've heard of him. You quoted him before! And I corrected you last time! Thats why I called you out on that one here.
i did not lie, infact i named not only the scientist who carried out the experiments, whom i doubt you have ever heard of
But that is not the place where I am saying you claimed no new species - and lied. In that instance, your lie was to claim that in all his experiments, every mutation lead to an inferior insect. I say you lied because the quote you gave made no such claim.
it is relevant as a character witness against the type of person you are,
I could be the most despicable person in the world, it would not change the fact that you lied.
You lied, that is why it is relevant, that is why you are lying now, because that is the type of person you are.
Maybe I did lie. If you claim I am lying now, then explain where my lie is. Explain how the two main claim's that I called you out on are not lies.
I only hope that in the future i remain free from the type of no good, nothing constructive, slanderous and utterly deviod of any type of reasonable spirituality that you portray, your contribution to the fora is negligible and amounts to nothing more than one personal opinion after another, masquerading as truth. Give it up, we learn nothing from your posts, nothing!
Well I was hoping that you might one day learn what a species is, but it looks like you'd rather not know despite reading a book with the word in its title. No wonder you disagree with what you read in that book - you haven't got the first clue what he is talking about!
28 Feb 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat do hallucinogens have to with anything?
One day you can be as open minded as me Rob
Actually i had my spell with hallucinogenics, its was awesome at the time, but it had to pass!
You're closed minded and have admitted as such, it took about 200 posts but we got there........finally.
One day you may have the courage and open mindedness, as i have, to read books that conflict with your worldview. I know it must pain you to acknowledge that a mere materialst is more open minded than you. When you have plucked up the courage and are ready let me know, the book is sat here waiting and it's an open ended offer. Just let me know.
28 Feb 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadi have a button which allows me to ignore certain pestilent pseudo intellectuals like you, consider yourself privileged that you will now be the second person to effect its use. Have a good life.
Of course I've heard of him. You quoted him before! And I corrected you last time! Thats why I called you out on that one here.
But that is not the place where I am saying you claimed no new species - and lied. In that instance, your lie was to claim that in all his experiments, every mutation lead to an inferior insect. I say you lied because the quote ...[text shortened]... e with what you read in that book - you haven't got the first clue what he is talking about!
28 Feb 11
Originally posted by Proper Knobi am reading the origin of the species for goodness sake, how much more Darwinistic can you get! I now reject your terms of close mindedness, i am reading the original volume and that's enough, be reasonable man!
What do hallucinogens have to with anything?
You're closed minded and have admitted as such, it took about 200 posts but we got there........finally.
One day you may have the courage and open mindedness, as i have, to read books that conflict with your worldview. I know it must pain you to acknowledge that a mere materialst is more open minded than ...[text shortened]... eady let me know, the book is sat here waiting and it's an open ended offer. Just let me know.
28 Feb 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's good your reading it. Now read a modern up to date book that has all the evidence gathered over the last 150yrs since Darwin proposed his theory. This book has snippets of OotS in it and then goes on to show all the evidence that has been gathered that proves Darwin was correct.
i am reading the origin of the species for goodness sake, how much more Darwinistic can you get! I now reject your terms of close mindedness, i am reading the original volume and that's enough, be reasonable man!
I now reject your terms of close mindedness.
You can reject all you like, the fact is you are. Let's test it out -
I'm happy to read and then discuss any book you wish to send me, i am open minded to read anything. Will you do the same?
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Originally posted by Proper KnobI take the fifth amendment and invoke the right to remain silent less I incriminate myself.
It's good your reading it. Now read a modern up to date book that has all the evidence gathered over the last 150yrs since Darwin proposed his theory. This book has snippets of OotS in it and then goes on to show all the evidence that has been gathered that proves Darwin was correct.
[b]I now reject your terms of close mindedness.
You can reje iscuss any book you wish to send me, i am open minded to read anything. Will you do the same?[/b]
28 Feb 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieExactly, your closed minded. I'm not and you don't like that.
I take the fifth amendment and invoke the right to remain silent less I incriminate myself.
Your trumped by an atheist, evolutionary, materialist and knowing you that's gotta grate. But you can fix this at any time, message me your address and the book will be in the post.
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Originally posted by Proper Knobmy dear Sir, i am not fuelled by egotism! I get trumped all the time by atheistic, evolutionary materialists. One must simply resign oneself to the claims being made, for even the Christ himself was subject to similar claims and yet he maintained a sense of dignity. Whether you are close minded or not doesn't bother me, it is after all, not a reflection of me, but of you 🙂
Exactly, your closed minded. I'm not and you don't like that.
Your trumped by an atheist, evolutionary, materialist and knowing you that's gotta grate. But you can fix this at any time, message me your address and the book will be in the post.