JWs: more covering up of child sex abuse

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you believe someone else's perspective can also be true even if it contradicts yours?

Give me a scenario. People are entitled to believe what they want. You are entitled to think that your god figure will punish some people and reward others when they die. They are entitled to claim it's true even if I don't think it is. It doesn't really matter. If someone does something wrong according to my moral compass then that is the adjudication that my moral compass makes. People often have to agree to disagree. I can understand that someone might disagree. Do you have a real life scenario in mind?

Originally posted by @fmf
Give me a scenario. People are entitled to believe what they want. You are entitled to think that your god figure will punish some people and reward others when they die. They are entitled to claim it's true even if I don't think it is. It doesn't really matter. If someone does something wrong according to my moral compass then that is the adjudication that my ...[text shortened]... isagree. I can understand that someone might disagree. Do you have a real life scenario in mind?

Why would it not matter if someone i.e a rapist has the perspective that rape is morally sound? Do you believe their perspective is also true?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Why would it not matter if someone i.e a rapist has the perspective that rape is morally sound? Do you believe their perspective is also true?

What an utterly stupid question.

Originally posted by @fmf
What an utterly stupid question.

Within the paradigm of moral relativism contradictory perspectives are all believed to be true at the same time, and that is why you keep on dodging.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Within the paradigm of moral relativism contradictory perspectives are all true at the same time, and that is why you keep on dodging.

You appear to have no understanding of what a moral compass is, where it comes from, how it is applied, and what happens/what it means when it comes up with different answers from those of others. Or you are pretending.

Originally posted by @fmf
You appear to have no understanding of what a moral compass is, where it comes from, how it is applied, and what happens/what it means when it comes up with different answers from those of others. Or you are pretending.

You appear to have no understanding of what moral relativity is/means and what moral implications it creates. Or you are pretending.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
You appear to have no understanding of what moral relativity is/means and what moral implications it creates. Or you are pretending.

Morality is subjective.

Your religion does not alter this.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Originally posted by @fmf
Morality is subjective.

Your religion does not alter this.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

If you cannot argue that the covering up of child sex abuse is objectively wrong this thread is a total waste of time and energy.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If you cannot argue that the covering up of child sex abuse is objectively wrong this thread is a total waste of time and energy.

My moral compass tells me it's wrong. Your moral compass tells you it's wrong - assuming you are telling the truth; you wobbled for page after page on the issue earlier on this thread. I am unaffected by your use of the word "objectively". What a pity you used a story about a rape covered up by your family to help robbie carobbie defend his organization's track record of systematically covering up child sex abuse.

@fmf said
My moral compass tells me it's wrong. Your moral compass tells you it's wrong - assuming you are telling the truth; you wobbled for page after page on the issue earlier on this thread. I am unaffected by your use of the word "objectively". What a pity you used a story about a rape covered up by your family to help robbie carobbie defend his organization's track record of systematically covering up child sex abuse.

If the word 'wrong' is used as a subjective term it looses it's true meaning.

@dj2becker said
If the word 'wrong' is used as a subjective term it looses all meaning.

No, it doesn't. You're wrong.

@fmf said
No, it doesn't. You're wrong.

If 'wrong' means 'off the mark' and 'the mark' is not fixed the word 'wrong' becomes totally meaningless.

I don't expect you to realize or admit the truthfulness of this observation.

@dj2becker said
If 'wrong' means 'off the mark' and 'the mark' is not fixed the word 'wrong' becomes totally meaningless.

Of course it doesn't become totally meaningless.

@fmf said
Of course it doesn't become totally meaningless.

Obviously not when meaninglessness is the standard for measuring meaning.

@dj2becker said
Obviously not when meaninglessness is the standard for measuring meaning.

The determinations you make using your moral compass are subjective and manifest themselves in various and varying personal preferences and choices ~ which in turn, manifest themselves in actions ~ and yet I don't think that whether you find something right or wrong is meaningless. Nor do I think that your subjective opinions about moral issues use "meaninglessness" as "the standard for measuring meaning".