20 Oct 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo it is your opinion, that because say GW Bush who is a Christian engages in a war, that means that all other Christians [except JWs or course] cannot have love and peace with God just like the JWs.
doubtful, after all, lets look at the record of lets say, nominal Christianity? two world wars, hmmm, Islam? well well more wars, Hinduism, more militancy, Buddhists, more militancy, Israel, more militancy, nope, i dont think so.
20 Oct 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are comparing apples to oranges. There are plenty of J. W.'s fighting in wars, or military actions all over the world as we speak. U. S. Armed Forces. Based on your statement, seems like the J.W.'s are fighting wars too.
doubtful, after all, lets look at the record of lets say, nominal Christianity? two world wars, hmmm, Islam? well well more wars, Hinduism, more militancy, Buddhists, more militancy, Israel, more militancy, nope, i dont think so.
20 Oct 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHere's a random post from me for you to read but to pretend to ignore by immediately posting straight afterwards in reply to someone else.
doubtful, after all, lets look at the record of lets say, nominal Christianity? two world wars, hmmm, Islam? well well more wars, Hinduism, more militancy, Buddhists, more militancy, Israel, more militancy, nope, i dont think so.
20 Oct 13
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Originally posted by Pudgenikdont be silly, we dont do war and we dont join the armed forces, you seem to have mistaken us for someone else.
You are comparing apples to oranges. There are plenty of J. W.'s fighting in wars, or military actions all over the world as we speak. U. S. Armed Forces. Based on your statement, seems like the J.W.'s are fighting wars too.
20 Oct 13
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Originally posted by Rajk999what other Christians do is their affair, you cannot be a Christian if you war against other Christians, for Jesus said, you will know you are Christians by the love you have among yourselves. History testifies to the fact that nominal Christians as a whole do not share this love, nor Hindus, nor Muslims nor Jews. Sure you cant rant against the fact, but evidence is evidence.
So it is your opinion, that because say GW Bush who is a Christian engages in a war, that means that all other Christians [except JWs or course] cannot have love and peace with God just like the JWs.
21 Oct 13
Originally posted by checkbaiterJWs are corporately passivist, it is unclear why this is but it is interesting that an international body of people would each individually decide to not defend their homeland from invasion. I guess as they all don't believe in blood transfusions they need to keep their heads down.
I wonder why the bible calls God a Warrior? Hmmmm..
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21 Oct 13
Originally posted by divegeesterI am certainly glad that our forefathers, when this country was started, were not JW's.
JWs are corporately passivist, it is unclear why this is but it is interesting that an international body of people would each individually decide to not defend their homeland from invasion. I guess as they all don't believe in blood transfusions they need to keep their heads down.
I wonder if the USA would even exist today if not for the brave souls who fought in the Revolutionary war, or WW1 and 2 for that matter.
21 Oct 13
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Originally posted by checkbaiteroh dear, i wondered when the attempted moral justification for killing others would start. The churches of Christendom are soaked in the blood of those sacrificed on the alter of war! Tell us how this militancy demonstrates the love that Christs disciples would have among themselves? He did say that they would be recognized by it, did he not?
I wonder why the bible calls God a Warrior? Hmmmm..
21 Oct 13
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Originally posted by checkbaiterstill advocating the same old lie,
I am certainly glad that our forefathers, when this country was started, were not JW's.
I wonder if the USA would even exist today if not for the brave souls who fought in the Revolutionary war, or WW1 and 2 for that matter.
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.
Wilfred Owen, Dulce Et Decorum Est
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21 Oct 13
One of the problems with JW's, is the commandment "thou shall not kill.
But they know full well that the proper translation is thou shall not murder.
Throughout the Old Testament God commanded his people to obliterate certain nations, like the Amalikites, the Jebusites, etc.
He also commanded in the law to stone to death the guilty..
21 Oct 13
Originally posted by PudgenikNot everyone is a child of God. The word adoption into God's family is used a lot in the word of God.
Being a smart butt. If you work at it hard enough you might get a Thread like Rajk999 got. ha, ha.
It can be VERY frustrating, but you have to remember in the back of your head, they are God's children too, even if they don't think so.
21 Oct 13
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Originally posted by checkbaiteroh dear, here is a rather damning FACT, we as Christians are no longer living under the Mosiac law, it has been annuled, get it? That is why we are no longer under compulsion to keep a sabbath etc and further to that Paul himself states of the Christian,
One of the problems with JW's, is the commandment "thou shall not kill.
But they know full well that the proper translation is thou shall not murder.
Throughout the Old Testament God commanded his people to obliterate certain nations, like the Amalikites, the Jebusites, etc.
He also commanded in the law to stone to death the guilty..
2 Corinthians 10
For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh
(for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but mighty before God to the casting down of strongholds),
and Jesus says,
Matt 26:52 New International Version
"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
Now you might wish to disobey that sound moral advice, as for me, Jesus words are good enough.