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Originally posted by karoly aczelseeing more of reality is meaningless to me, I have no idea what its supposed to mean and no i cannot say that i have read your earlier posts, I probably dismissed them as the work of a mad man. I dont think that taking any substances helps us see more of reality, it simply changes our perception of what is real during the time that we are influenced by the drug.
So "seeing more of reality" does not equate with "sound mind" to you?
(I assume you've read my earlier posts about this subject)
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAltogether now,
seeing more of reality is meaningless to me, I have no idea what its supposed to mean and no i cannot say that i have read your earlier posts, I probably dismissed them as the work of a mad man. I dont think that taking any substances helps us see more of reality, it simply changes our perception of what is real during the time that we are influenced by the drug.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieSmoking cannabis years ago affected the reality of what I appreciate about films and music and those experiences continue to affect my appreciation even nowadays without using it. Being in situations where we are coping with changes in our perception can affect and contribute to the forming of our perceptions. Just as emotions can distort perceptions, we can compute those distortions and this influences our understanding of our perceptions, even when those emotions are not in play.
seeing more of reality is meaningless to me, I have no idea what its supposed to mean and no i cannot say that i have read your earlier posts, I probably dismissed them as the work of a mad man. I dont think that taking any substances helps us see more of reality, it simply changes our perception of what is real during the time that we are influenced by the drug.
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Originally posted by FMFyou are talking about a subjective change in your perceptions not what is actually real outside of our experiences, the films remain the same, as does the music, that has not changed, simply your perceptions of what constitutes reality.
Smoking cannabis years ago affected the reality of what I appreciate about films and music and those experiences continue to affect my appreciation even nowadays without using it. Being in situations where we are coping with changes in our perception can affect and contribute to the forming of our perceptions. Just as emotions can distort perceptions, we can com ...[text shortened]... this influences our understanding of our perceptions, even when those emotions are not in play.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMy point exactly. "Perceptions of what constitutes reality" are the only perceptions that we have available to us. Perceiving what is "real" involves subjectivity. This is an essential part of our humanity and is therefore interwoven with our spiritual paths. You perceive that you have received communication from God, for example and that this is a "reality". I do not perceive you to have received such communication. For me, "reality" is that you haven't. Both of us are dealing with our each and every subjective perceptions in this case. And these perceptions are molded by every experience we ever have.
you are talking about a subjective change in your perceptions not what is actually real outside of our experiences, the films remain the same, as does the music, that has not changed, simply your perceptions of what constitutes reality.
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Originally posted by kd2aczi think bad trips vary. the only had one and it had a similar feeling to being very drunk, but with my senses numbed like i was underwater. its funny how we never call doing bad things because of alcohol 'bad trips' i bet we all have way more 'bad' alcohol stories than 'bad' drug related stories.
I have often heard people talk about 'good trips' and 'bad trips', I am wondering what makes one good vs. bad. Can anyone describe what was going on at the time during a trip, specifically if it was 'bad'? Just curious.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie"seeing more of reality is meaningless to me".
seeing more of reality is meaningless to me, I have no idea what its supposed to mean and no i cannot say that i have read your earlier posts, I probably dismissed them as the work of a mad man. I dont think that taking any substances helps us see more of reality, it simply changes our perception of what is real during the time that we are influenced by the drug.
Certainly is Rob, certainly is