Man Creates God

@avalanchethecat

Oops! Thanks for the heads up!

Dissenters aside, another thing all people have in common ~ at least in terms of when they are organized into societies and cultures ~ is a belief in their own immortality in some shape or form. Maybe it's part and parcel of the belief in the human superiority thing.

@FMF

I guess people with my sorts of beliefs are the odd ones out, then. IMO, nothing lasts forever.

"Impermanence" is a theme in Buddhist thought. (Though I am not sure if that is part of the denominations that believe in things like reincarnation.)

@bigdoggproblem said
I guess people with my sorts of beliefs are the odd ones out, then. IMO, nothing lasts forever.

@fmf said
A cursory Google search yields...

"According to sociologists Ariela Keysar and Juhem Navarro-Rivera's review of numerous global studies on atheism, there are 450 to 500 million positive atheists and agnostics worldwide (7% of the world's population),"

And...

"Irreligion, or nonreligion, is the absence or rejection of religion, or indifference to it. According to the Pew ...[text shortened]... f 230 countries and territories, 16% of the world's population is not affiliated with any religion."

@avalanchethecat

Well I'd rather be immoral than immortal, anyway.

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

Well I'd rather be immoral than immortal, anyway.

I don't think that you really would like to be immoral.

I think though that you realize that immoral forces are nearly uncontrollably operating in your life. And to just appear to go ALONG with them with a sly boast is the only thing you can do.

This is something like a piece o ...[text shortened]... . But its euphemizing the degradation as it being "progressive."

I am not trying to be mean.

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

Well I'd rather be immoral than immortal, anyway.

I don't think that you really would like to be immoral.

I think though that you realize that immoral forces are nearly uncontrollably operating in your life. And to just appear to go ALONG with them with a sly boast is the only thing you can do.

This is something like a piece o ...[text shortened]... . But its euphemizing the degradation as it being "progressive."

I am not trying to be mean.

@avalanchethecat

Oh I certainly wouldn't want to be immoral. But I'd still prefer it to being immortal.

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

Oh I certainly wouldn't want to be immoral. But I'd still prefer it to being immortal.

Thanks for some clarification.

Do you mean you would not like to be immoral forever?
Do you mean that if you must be immoral you would prefer that it not be
eternally so?

@avalanchethecat

I wouldn't want to be anything forever. No, I meant that if I was one or the other, I'd rather be immoral, a simple (a) or (b) choice.

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

I wouldn't want to be anything forever. No, I meant that if I was one or the other, I'd rather be immoral, a simple (a) or (b) choice.

Once again, thankyou for the clarification.

You say you would not want to be ANYTHING ... ANYTHING forever.
I got it.

Allow me to ask.

IF you had to choose between
[ ...[text shortened]... oriously unreproachably morally perfected forever

WHICH of the two alternatives would you prefer?

@avalanchethecat

You are changing the nature of 1.).

What you have done is say in essence "I will take immoral but not forever".

You have said you prefer number 1.) but only if it ends up like 2.)

Would you please leave the nature of the destinies as stated and choose again?
In 2.) pay attention to the word "perfected" as in the end of a process.

IF you had to choose between
1.) Being immoral forever
2.) Being gloriously unreproachably morally perfected forever

WHICH of the two alternatives would you prefer?

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

You are changing the nature of 1.).

What you have done is say in essence "I will take immoral but not forever".

You have said you prefer number 1.) but only if it ends up like 2.)

Would you please leave the nature of the destinies as stated and choose again?
In 2.) pay attention to the word "perfected" as ...[text shortened]... unreproachably morally perfected forever

WHICH of the two alternatives would you prefer?[/quote]

@avalanchethecat

Nah.

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

Nah.

What does "Nah" mean ?
I'm not clear what "Nah" there means.