@caissad4 saidThere are plenty of them around, Jesus called out the hypocrites many times, and we are still plagued by them.
I wonder how many of these "devout Christian men" have defied their religion and "spilled their seed' ??
Hypocrites abound.
"Do as I say, not as I do," is a popular game among them.
@caissad4 saidOh, I've looked at small internet blurbs about this stuff before. There's never any details other than some vague description and some random case examples with a few details.
You should have followed my search suggestion then you would not have made that erroneous first statement.
Spend ten minutes looking at my suggestion.
Got something different?
And you don't understand what I said:
How can you prove it is a thousand year tradition among people who you cannot prove existed, let alone existed in their current form, a thousand years ago.
13 Jun 19
@fmf saidOh, but you are assuming that I am not just rubbing it on him that he is a non-Christian clinging to an interpretation of convenience.
Or, maybe he's trying to engage in debate and discussion with you on a debate and discussion forum. He's trying to "shut up a Christian"?? What's with all these glass-chinned religionists we have here in this community?
He go hard, I go hard; we go hard together.
Do you want to go hard, FMF?
@suzianne saidYeah, he says sin no more in that pericope whose veracity is commonly doubted.
What about passages in the Old Testament which advise stoning for adulterers? Isn't this addressed by Jesus himself in John 8, when he tells the adulterous woman, "Neither do I condemn thee; go, and sin no more."
As I said the first time I brought this up a page ago, you apparently do not care that we are now under a different covenant than the Jews, we are told i ...[text shortened]... . Maybe you can find the courage to address this now on page seven when you ignored it on page six.
He did not say continue in adultery. He said sin no more.
This would seem to jive with the fact that homosexuality is repeatedly conedmned in the New Testament, just as adultery is, and that passage would tell us clearly...
While Old Testament laws are not to be punished with Old Testament means, the moral basis of these laws was not incorrect.
13 Jun 19
@philokalia saidHow on earth can you claim Ghost of a Duke was trying to shut "a Christian" down with what he posted?
Oh, but you are assuming that I am not just rubbing it on him that he is a non-Christian clinging to an interpretation of convenience.
13 Jun 19
@philokalia saidYour ridiculous mewling was you "going hard"? Huh?
He go hard, I go hard; we go hard together.
@philokalia saidAnd you believe he was trying to "shut up a Christian"? You don't see it as him merely contributing a perspective you disagree with?
That's right.
My "mewling" was me pointing out that non-Christians coming up with these convenient passages taken out of context doesn't work.
@ghost-of-a-duke said@ghost-of-a-duke said to Philokalia
Two pertinent passages:
Two pertinent passages...
Oh gosh, what are you trying to DO to Philokalia??
@fmf saidThe guy who just said I was "mewling" doesn't understand the nature of hyperbolic rhetoric.
And you believe he was trying to "shut up a Christian"? You don't see it as him merely contributing a perspective you disagree with?
But I am not frustrated.
This is what you are famous for doing, FMF.
When you say someone is mewling it is just regular, expressive conversation, but when I claim someone is trying to 'shut us up' in some part of the covnersation, it is a sticking point suddenly.
This is bad faith posting, bruh. Very bad faith. Very poor form.
You got to get the right form.
@philokalia saidI do understand hyperbole. But why did you engage in it in the face of a couple of Bible verses?
The guy who just said I was "mewling" doesn't understand the nature of hyperbolic rhetoric.
@philokalia saidYou really think he was trying to "shut up a Christian"? I thought he was just expressing a dissenting view.
When you say someone is mewling it is just regular, expressive conversation, but when I claim someone is trying to 'shut us up' in some part of the covnersation, it is a sticking point suddenly.
"Mewling" is what people do when they pretend rather pathetically to be the victim of something and it's just bogus. The notion that Ghost of a Duke was trying "shut up a Christian" is bogus.
sonship does the same thing all the time 'oh you're trying to close me down oh you're trying to silence me oh you're trying to shut me down'. And there are others too. No atheists here do it. None of them. Why do so many Christians have such glass chins?
13 Jun 19
@fmf saidOh really?
You really think he was trying to "shut up a Christian"? I thought he was just expressing a dissenting view.
"Mewling" is what people do when they pretend rather pathetically to be the victim of something and it's just bogus. The notion that Ghost of a Duke was trying "shut up a Christian" is bogus.
sonship does the same thing all the time 'oh you're trying to close me do ...[text shortened]... e others too. No atheists here do it. None of them. Why do so many Christians have such glass chins?
Did I sound like a victim when I said:
Oh, so we have Ghost of a Duke, who is not a Christian, trying to cherrypick and use parts of the Bible to shut up a Christian.
How about some other passages?:
I was just hitting back.
I don't have to explain why I picked my words; and you don't have to explain why you picked "Mewling."
This is a bloody normal interaction.
And no one went too far or anything.
But your language policing is making the thread stupid.
@philokalia saidWhy do so many Christian's here behave like they are so brittle in their beliefs?
Oh really?
Did I sound like a victim when I said:
Oh, so we have Ghost of a Duke, who is not a Christian, trying to cherrypick and use parts of the Bible to shut up a Christian.
How about some other passages?:
I was just hitting back.
I don't have to explain why I picked my words; and you don't have to explain why you picked "Mewling."
...[text shortened]...
And no one went too far or anything.
But your language policing is making the thread stupid.
@philokalia saidYou felt a non-Christian was "hitting" you? Gosh. OK, you are obviously feeling a bit besieged and paranoid. So I will say this: if Ghost of a Duke comes along and indicates that he DID quote Ephesians 4:2 and Romans 14:1-4 in order to try to stop you from posting or he was trying to curtail your right to express yourself in some way, I will stand corrected and apologize to you.
I was just hitting back.