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Originally posted by SuzianneI do not humble myself to man, but I humble myself to God (the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit). I prefer reading the letters of Paul to Job..
My guess is that you are leaning on your own (mis)understanding, but in your vanity you believe it is the hand of God.
I'm not going to say it again. You'd profit from a thorough reading of Job again but only if you so do with a humble heart.
If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness. The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying.
2 Corinthians 11:30-31 NIV)
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
The Instructor
15 May 13
Originally posted by menace71I agree. I would never take my spiritual food and directions from any man made organization. But I would from one that is backed by God and directed by his son....
One should put the Bible first...............no organization made from man....you should take your own advice it is good
Manny
15 May 13
Originally posted by RJHindsAs deep into this end times as we are you should understand it all by now. Why don't you?
From past experience I have learned that the Holy Spirit chooses to teach whoever he pleases, and sometimes does this in mysterious ways. I would never have dreamed that a former muslim would be chosen to reveal the key to understanding the mark of the beast. However, when I heard Walid Shoebat discuss the interpretation of the meaning of the supposed "666 ...[text shortened]... nding.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
The Instructor
15 May 13
Originally posted by menace71Because it is made up of humans. All the governemnts and all they control is made of humans. BUT NO WHERE is the beast ever said in the Bible to be a individual person either fleashly or of a spirit nature.
explain the personification of the beast G-man ?
Manny
Instead of me proving it isn't an individual, I still have not seen anyone here show 1 scripture that says it is.
And none of the descriptures even slightly lean in that direction...
15 May 13
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New just in:-
If we "calculated" the "number of his name" as instructed and it came to
either 616 or 666 we would have our answer. There is such a man. Prince
Charles of Wales' heraldic achievement (coat-of-arms) literally consists of
the very beasts described in Rev 13 and Dan 7, he is a Prince (Dan 9:27)
and he is from the old Roman Empire that destroyed the Temple (Dan
9:27). So what does his name add up to? Rather than 616, his name adds
up to 666 using the ancient gematria system. And not only does this work
in the English, but also in the official Hebrew transliteration (Nasich Charles
Mem Wales). What are the odds anyone would have a name that calculates
to the same number in two languages
🙄
http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/666-616-number-mark-of-the-beast.htm
Of course he is never called Prince Charles of Wales but lets not let facts
get in the way!
15 May 13
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Originally posted by SuzianneYou misunderstand. The fifth dimension (heaven) represents more freedom in every sense of the word, not less. We are not a hive, we are a union of autonomous individuals. (Actually "God" and "his" mind is everywhere throughout the universe/multiverse. It is not limited to the "hive".)
What? Is this just more "we are all God" baloney? No, I do not agree.
As a Christian, I am NOT just a part of some "hivemind".
"I am not a number, I am a person!" -- No. 6, The Prisoner, "Arrival"
15 May 13
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Originally posted by galveston75Can you read, Gman?
Because it is made up of humans. All the governemnts and all they control is made of humans. BUT NO WHERE is the beast ever said in the Bible to be a individual person either fleashly or of a spirit nature.
Instead of me proving it isn't an individual, I still have not seen anyone here show 1 scripture that says it is.
And none of the descriptures even slightly lean in that direction...
"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six." -- Rev. 13:18, KJV
"count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man"
A man. The number of the beast is the number of a man. A man.
How is that not clear?
I've shown you this twice now. How can you say you have not seen one scripture that says it is a man? When Revelations speaks of the AntiChrist, it always uses the word 'he'. What else is that but a man?
(Now I understand your Bible uses the word 'it' but that is because you must honor your doctrine.)
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Originally posted by SuzianneI post this reference especially for you. Perhaps you will agree with his interpretation instead of that of Walid Shobat. Let me know what you think about it.
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. " -- Rev. 22:18-19, KJV
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Do you believe numerology is witchcraft from Satan or is it God inspired?
http://www.ofesite.com/spirit/numerology/numer.htm
The Instructor
15 May 13
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Originally posted by SuzianneThis says the NUMBER of the Beast = the NUMBER of a Man.
Can you read, Gman?
"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six." -- Rev. 13:18, KJV
"count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man"
A man. The number of the beast is the number of a man. A man.
How is that not rstand your Bible uses the word 'it' but that is because you must honor your doctrine.)
That does not say the Beast = a Man.
Is SATAN (depicted in Revelation 12 as a Dragon Beast) = to a Man?
The Instructor
15 May 13
Originally posted by RJHindsLeave it up to you to focus on the most insignificant detail.
This says the NUMBER of the Beast = the NUMBER of a Man.
That does not say the Beast = a Man.
Is SATAN (depicted in Revelation 12 as a Dragon Beast) = to a Man?
The Instructor
What ELSE do you think the verse means?
If A=B and A=C, does not B=C?
You, Mister Literalist, are now saying that the AntiChrist is not a man? Fantastic. When did you join the JWs?
THE beast is a man. Not just ANY beast. Your last question really shows how much you just don't "get it". Or maybe you just want to argue.
Man, why is this suddenly like pulling teeth? I thought Christians for the most part actually *understood* the Word of God. Oh, wait a minute. Creationists. Oh, yeah. Do you want me to draw you a picture Ron? Would that make it easier for you? How about if I used a crayon? What's your favorite color?
[/eyeroll]
15 May 13
Originally posted by RJHindsOkay, Ron, I get it.
Behold the Beast
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam__quran_and_666.htm
The Instructor
You're so up to your ass in your hatred that you have become blind. Okay, got it. I guess I won't bother trying to convince you of anything anymore.
Go back to your corner, then. Just don't get too loud, k? The adults are talking.
15 May 13
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Originally posted by SuzianneHow am i saying the Antichrist is not a man? I earlier posted what John said about the the Antichrist and antichrists in general. That does not eliminate the Antichrist from being a man any more than the Christ is eliminated from being a man. It is just bad logic on your part. Satan is not a man. And it does not say A=B and A=C. It says the NUMBERS are equals, not that the Beast equals a Man. In other words, the numbers or symbols or whatever of the beast are equal to the same ones of a man, and not that the beast is the same as a man.
Leave it up to you to focus on the most insignificant detail.
What ELSE do you think the verse means?
If A=B and A=C, does not B=C?
You, Mister Literalist, are now saying that the AntiChrist is not a man? Fantastic. When did you join the JWs?
THE beast is a man. Not just ANY beast. Your last question really shows how much you just don't "get it easier for you? How about if I used a crayon? What's your favorite color?
[/eyeroll]
The Instructor