18 Jan 12
Originally posted by VoidSpiritI've had that.
i think what [successful] meditation does is cut off the conscious brain from the nervous system. this gives you a feeling of floating in nothing which can be interpreted as attaining nirvana or having a spiritual experience. in some forms of meditation like kundalini, when the brain tries to reestablish connection to the nervous system, you get mental spasms which are interpreted as the kundalini serpent.
18 Jan 12
Originally posted by josephwthe brain isn't being cut off. if that happens, you die!
That's quite odd. How can meditation allow for the brain to be "cut off" from the nervous system?
It's hard wired.
what i said is that the conscious brain is cut off from the nervous system.
an analogy: imagine turning off your monitor, but the computer is still on and working. you're just staring at a blank screen: messaging has been turned off.
18 Jan 12
Originally posted by josephwI say this repeatedly to myself and to the ones I love. Accepting everything the way it is, you overcome delusion. Suffering is given anyway. If a person needs support, then support should get.
Is that what you would say to someone you knew may suffer and possibly die?
Do you think meditation would help ease pain and even affect a recovery?
Meditation is a technique one is using in order to get the most out of one's dynamism. If you want to meditate on easing the pain and affect a recovery, do meditate and overcome delusion
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18 Jan 12
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Originally posted by josephwIf it was not yours, did you mean any of it?
You misunderstand. That list was not mine. I apologize for not putting it in quotes. That particular post was directed toward black beetle who I assumed would know.
I would ask that you refer to the OP and make your contributing reply to the topic.
I cant contribute a whole lot to the OP because I have never deliberately meditated in my life. What I am trying to establish, is why I would want to try. What is the purpose?
19 Jan 12
Originally posted by twhiteheadBecause it feels good. You might see a beach at sunset and have nothing to do for half an hour. Just sayin it couldn't hurt. You may even have some sort of insight.
If it was not yours, did you mean any of it?
I cant contribute a whole lot to the OP because I have never deliberately meditated in my life. What I am trying to establish, is why I would want to try. What is the purpose?
19 Jan 12
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If the beetle is correct , that the mind is all there is, then all we have are our
experiences, past, lodged somewhere in the subconscious realm. In order to get at
them and draw them up, 'as water from a deep well', one needs to meditate, to bring
them to the fore, to examine them, to ask ourselves what transpired and to check our
variations with what we have come to know from all other collective experiences in
order to find solutions. Indeed, if there are no solutions then why are we asking
questions, if there are no questions then where is understanding, for understanding is
the prime thing to be attained.
21 Jan 12
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieThis is a point of self determination, I believe.
the heart is treacherous, one should never trust it!
You have to see the situation for what it is, take your ego out of the equation and decide what is in everyone's best interest. You have to do this for all individual/unique situations. (Incidentally have yo heard of "The Situtaionists"? I think they started in France but have been very sparodic. I thought a learned man like yourself might have come across some of their ideas/writings,etc.. )
After all , everything is about the individual situation, and all that ...
But sometimes the heart should be believed at all costs!! RJ may say something like . "you know this!!" š Funny stuff, either way.
But saying "you should never trust it" is really closing off a lot of human experience right there, Robbie !!