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Originally posted by telerionSo which is it? Is God outside of time or not?
So which is it? Is God outside of time or not?
Also, I must point out that if this is your evidence that your God has a different sort of time then you got your conversion rate wrong by several factors of ten. Did you make the first one up on your own authority or was it divinely-inspired?
I think that should be easy to figure out for you.
Also, I must point out that if this is your evidence that your God has a different sort of time then you got your conversion rate wrong by several factors of ten. Did you make the first one up on your own authority or was it divinely-inspired?
I don't think that Peter was using an exact conversion rate. He was was just showing the huge differences in time.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerI think that should be easy to figure out for you.
So which is it? Is God outside of time or not?
I think that should be easy to figure out for you.
Also, I must point out that if this is your evidence that your God has a different sort of time then you got your conversion r ...[text shortened]... rsion rate. He was was just showing the huge differences in time.
Don't cop out. Tell us. You have blatantly contradicted yourself. Which is it?
1) God is outside of time (human or non-human whatever that is)
2) God is inside of time
I don't think that Peter was using an exact conversion rate. He was was just showing the huge differences in time.
So was your figure the accurate one? Or were you embellishing on a previous embellishment?
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Originally posted by telerionGod is outside of human time. The sciptural reference is the accurate one. I misquoted it in the beginnig.
[b]I think that should be easy to figure out for you.
Don't cop out. Tell us. You have blatantly contradicted yourself. Which is it?
1) God is outside of time (human or non-human whatever that is)
2) God is inside of time
I don't think that Peter was using an exact conversion rate. He was was just showing the huge differences in tim ...[text shortened]... o was your figure the accurate one? Or were you embellishing on a previous embellishment?
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Originally posted by dj2beckerSo God is within a "God-time"?
God is outside of human time. The sciptural reference is the accurate one. I misquoted it in the beginnig.
Is this what you believe?
Do you know anything of its characteristics? In what way is it more like time (and thus called "God-time" ) than like say a potato or a car or space?
How much God time does God have?
Does God exist independent of God, or was it designed by God as well?
Could God-time negate God's omniscience? For example, God would like to post in RHP and confirm his existence to us but cannot because he also wants to impregnate other adolescent girls and simply does not have enough "God-time" to do both?
12 Jun 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerI like potatoes and occasionally I sit on couches.
Without exception, you should fall in one of the three categories: theists, atheists or agnostics.
If you are a theist, then you believe in a supreme being called God who is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. In this case, you are a creationist and believe strongly that God created the universe and everything in it, including you and me. In other ...[text shortened]... e accused them of, being mental couch potatoes.
http://www.mwillett.org/atheism/agnostic.htm
I hope this helps
12 Jun 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerDo I believe in the Bible?
Well, I need to find out more about you before I can put you into a category.
Firstly, do you believe any of the Bible?
Well, I've never read it from cover to cover so can't really say yeah or nay either way. Although I follow with interest many of the discussions on this list with interest, and my g/f is wholly convinced, and does try to dissuade me from my stance of "God created Universe approx 14 billion years ago....".
Now if she can't change my mind, you've got no chance!
Problem I have with the Bible is the apparent high level of inconsistencies in it. I also think that many of the stories in it are apocryphal in nature, e.g. Genesis.
And if I spoke to a devout Moslem, no doubt he would do his best to convince me that the Koran is also the divinely inspired word of God...
For all I know, maybe they both are...
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16 Jun 05
Originally posted by PawnCurryWell I suggest you watch these creation seminars: They are freely avvailable on the internet: http://www.biblebelievers.com/hovind/index.html
Do I believe in the Bible?
Well, I've never read it from cover to cover so can't really say yeah or nay either way. Although I follow with interest many of the discussions on this list with interest, and my g/f is wholly convinced, and does try to dissuade me from my stance of "God created Universe approx 14 billion years ago....".
Now if she can ...[text shortened]... the Koran is also the divinely inspired word of God...
For all I know, maybe they both are...
16 Jun 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerI'm not being put off by anyone. Anyone that is except Hovind himself. The fact that he is a raving lunatic is a major disadvantage when attempting to overthrow years of scientific knowledge.
Yea, and watch it first before you speak. And don't be put off by a bunch of chaps that have never even seen it.
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16 Jun 05
Originally posted by XanthosNZBack to the old strategy of insulting the source if you have nothing to refute his arguments with. 😴
I'm not being put off by anyone. Anyone that is except Hovind himself. The fact that he is a raving lunatic is a major disadvantage when attempting to overthrow years of scientific knowledge.
23 Jun 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerunbelievable. dj2, you and your penchant for cut and paste are officially out of control. the sad thing is that you show no ability for tasteful discrimination -- you seem to post anything you can find. you must be using poogle (instead of google) because all of your posts i have read are big steaming piles of horse loaf.
Without exception, you should fall in one of the three categories: theists, atheists or agnostics.
If you are a theist, then you believe in a supreme being called God who is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. In this case, you are a creationist and believe strongly that God created the universe and everything in it, including you and me. In other ...[text shortened]... e accused them of, being mental couch potatoes.
http://www.mwillett.org/atheism/agnostic.htm
if you think that agnosticism is the easy way out, you are wrong. if you think that agnosticism is not an affirmation, you are wrong again. there are certain things you could study all your life and in good faith you may not be able to make heads or tails of it. the only mental masturbation in that case is pretending like you understand in a loud booming voice. in such cases, concluding that you don't know advances knowledge.
i find it interesting that someone who has stated the he 'hates' hypocrisy would be so fast to dismiss all agnostics as mental couch potatoes. i don't dismiss all christians as moronic cut and paste freaks (as a random example).