09 Jan 15
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Originally posted by galveston75he occasionally churns out the usual Isaiah jive about Jesus being almighty God unaware that the text does not say that. Thats the only evidence of any scriptural reference i can recall him ever using. FMF for having been an alleged Christian for thirty years has to my knowledge never introduced a Biblical verse and instead attempts to utilise emotive issues in order to attack the spirituality of others. One wonders what Biblical literature he was reading for all of those thirty years.
You are right on that some here don't seem to understand that using the bible is a very important thing to do if your going to teach or to back up your claims to others.
Dive dude doesn't seem to understand that. Even if he quotes a scripture and misapplies it at least it would show he's trying. But nothing from him at all that I can remember.
I really don't think he can....
09 Jan 15
Originally posted by galveston75Let me ask you a question Galveston; how many gods do you recognise. A Mighty god and an Almighty god. We've been there before right?
What you can't find any scriptures at all that would teach me or anyone here at RHP about your beliefs and why mine are so wrong? Not even one?
One of these gods (the "Mighty" one) you admit is Jesus who you also claim is an angel.
Jesus is your Mighty God and Saviour and the archangel Michael.
The Archangel Micheal is your Saviour.
Jehovah is also your Almighty God and Saviour.
This is pantheism Galveston. Paganism. Error of the highest magnitude.
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09 Jan 15
Originally posted by galveston75I don't claim to be anything other than a Christian.
You are right on that some here don't seem to understand that using the bible is a very important thing to do if your going to teach or to back up your claims to others.
Dive dude doesn't seem to understand that. Even if he quotes a scripture and misapplies it at least it would show he's trying. But nothing from him at all that I can remember.
I really don't think he can....
You on the other hand claim to be an member of the cult who claims to be the sole holders of god's truth on earth.
Please tell me one area of spiritual doctrine, dogma or insight that you are open to opinion on.
Thanks.
09 Jan 15
Originally posted by divegeesterNo sir I will not answer any of your questions. I challenged you to use a scripture from your bible to prove anything you believe and why we are wrong on any of the subjects you claim we are wrong about. Why aren't you able to do that?
Let me ask you a question Galveston; how many gods do you recognise. A Mighty god and an Almighty god. We've been there before right?
One of these gods (the "Mighty" one) you admit is Jesus who you also claim is an angel.
Jesus is your Mighty God and Saviour and the archangel Michael.
The Archangel Micheal is your Saviour.
Jehovah is also ...[text shortened]... and Saviour.
This is pantheism Galveston. Paganism. Error of the highest magnitude.
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09 Jan 15
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Originally posted by galveston75Well I challenged you to use scriptures to prove you are right. You are the one making the big claims the onus is on you to prove your point.
No sir I will not answer any of your questions. I challenged you to use a scripture from your bible to prove anything you believe and why we are wrong on any of the subjects you claim we are wrong about. Why aren't you able to do that?
Besides I've just "proved" using your own claims about Isaiah 9:6-7 that what you believe is pantheism. Why don't you deal with that biggie before we move on?
09 Jan 15
Originally posted by divegeesterI don't think it's pantheism.
Well I challenged you to use scriptures to prove you are right. You are the one making the big claims the onus is on you to prove your point.
Besides I've just "proved" using your own claims about Isaiah 9:6-7 that what you believe is pantheism. Why don't you deal with that biggie before we move on?
09 Jan 15
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Originally posted by galveston75If your religious literature has prophesized any of the positive changes and examples of progress there have been in the world since, say, 1914, show me where. If you are not able to do that, why not?
I challenged you to use a scripture from your bible to prove anything you believe and why we are wrong on any of the subjects you claim we are wrong about. Why aren't you able to do that?
Originally posted by divegeesterHello...anyone home? Perhaps you missed the scriptures in my post on the first two pages here?
Well I challenged you to use scriptures to prove you are right. You are the one making the big claims the onus is on you to prove your point.
Besides I've just "proved" using your own claims about Isaiah 9:6-7 that what you believe is pantheism. Why don't you deal with that biggie before we move on?
So.....we see you have nothing, no scriptures and nothing other then you tiny little opinion, which mean nothing and certianly proves you have no idea what the bible says on much of anything. If you did you would have posted them by now. It seems you are provong "false to the power" of the bible.
"If anyone who professes to serve God relies on his own ideas instead of adhering to the Bible and if his teaching does not ‘accord with godly devotion,’ thus failing to reflect the teacher’s devotion to God, he becomes “mentally diseased.” (1Ti 6:3, 4) The apostle Paul warned his younger fellow minister Timothy about ungodly ones who professed devotion to God. He cautioned Timothy to handle the Word of the truth aright, shunning empty speeches that violate what is holy, that Timothy might not be turned from the way of godly devotion. He then pointed out that there would be those who would practice all sorts of wickedness, hypocritically having a form of godly devotion but (((((( proving false to its power.)))))))) (2Ti 2:15, 16; 3:1-5) Jude likewise shows that such ones would have no genuine reverence for God or devotion to him, no respect or appreciation for his undeserved kindness. They would be persons using godliness for materialistic or sensual gain. Their hypocrisy is revealed in their practice of acts of loose conduct.—Jude 4."
Do you see the scriptures in that statement? See and learn.....
09 Jan 15
Originally posted by galveston75Surely when there are different interpretations of Bible verses on the table, in a public forum like this where people are airing and sharing their views, discussion and debate about your differences is a healthy thing rather than trying to inhibit the discourse with talk of fellow Christians being "mentally diseased"?
"If anyone who professes to serve God relies on his own ideas instead of adhering to the Bible and if his teaching does not ‘accord with godly devotion,’ thus failing to reflect the teacher’s devotion to God, he becomes “mentally diseased.”
09 Jan 15
Originally posted by FMFThe bible is extreemly clear on ones like this and who it fits......
Surely when there are different interpretations of Bible verses on the table, in a public forum like this where people are airing and sharing their views, discussion and debate about your differences is a healthy thing rather than trying to inhibit the discourse with talk of fellow Christians being "mentally diseased"?
09 Jan 15
Originally posted by galveston75Yes but any Christian with a different interpretation can brandish the "mentally diseased" thing at any other Christian that he or she disagrees with, so in a public forum like this with a diverse set of followers of Christ, and not being a JW message board where you might seek to coerce or reprimand members of your group, I don't see how it serves your purpose to dodge meaningful discussion [in this thread's case] about the state of the world, and instead engage in holier-than-thou bickering. It's just daft and unpleasant of you to claim divegeester is "as dangerous as Satan". You sell yourself short as a proponent of your version of Christianity when you conduct yourself in this way.
The bible is extreemly clear on ones like this and who it fits......
09 Jan 15
Originally posted by FMFOk, lets review... How did this thread start? With bible based information with scriptures to back it up. My motive is to possibly help ones see the time period we live in and maybe make sure they are doing the right things in God's eyes to first understand what he had his son say to us so we can see clearly the time period we live in is infact happening now. He also said many would not see it and would in fact say nothing of the sort is happening.
Yes but any Christian with a different interpretation can brandish the "mentally diseased" thing at any other Christian that he or she disagrees with, so in a public forum like this with a diverse set of followers of Christ, and not being a JW message board where you might seek to coerce or reprimand members of your group, I don't see how it serves your purpose ...[text shortened]... self short as a proponent of your version of Christianity when you conduct yourself in this way.
I did not post this to have dive dude "as usual" come in on this and "as usual" post comments of irritation, disgust and his general wanting to pull the rug out from underneath real serious spiritual information and conversations.
Just go back and look at his first few comments to see this is a fact he always pulls on many here.
Now..if he had voiced his opinion in a civil and mature way and added a couple scriptures that he thought showed we are not in the last days of this system, then believe it or not we may of had a decent converstion as we compared scriptures like a spiritul person should do.
But he has yet up to this date ever done that with anyone here. And that is why that scripture fits him more then anyone I've ever known....
Why are you the only one on this huge forum that defends him?