15 Apr 07
Originally posted by Conrau KThey exist believe me. You may think Islam the religion of peace but it is no such thing. They are on a deliberate program to control the planet if they are able. Any place they take over, women's rights go out the window. I suppose for instance you know women are not allowed to even have a drivers license in Saudi? That pretty much tells it all. And they have been brainwashed to hate americans even as much as they love our dollars.
I've never encountered any Christians with theintention to kill Muslims or Christians to the end of eternity, or at this moment either.
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16 Apr 07
Originally posted by sonhouseSo the activities of a minority of Islam, so you believe, is an accurate representation of the beliefs of Christians?
They exist believe me. You may think Islam the religion of peace but it is no such thing. They are on a deliberate program to control the planet if they are able. Any place they take over, women's rights go out the window. I suppose for instance you know women are not allowed to even have a drivers license in Saudi? That pretty much tells it all. And they have been brainwashed to hate americans even as much as they love our dollars.
18 Apr 07
Originally posted by sonhouselook at it this way, I would rather go through my whole life being a Christian and then die, find out I was wrong about the whole thing; than to go through my whole life being an atheist and then die and find out I was wrong about the whole thing. Put that thought process to any theorist or scientist, put it to any formula or equation that you can think of and the same logical explanation will come up. It does not make sense to not believe in God.
I suppose you know the original line about waiting for the return of Christ was because they thought back 2000 years ago they were in the last days and it would only be a matter of weeks before everything got straightened out by their invisible friend. Well what have we now, 2000 years later telling the same sad tale. AND PEOPLE KEEP ON BUYING THIS BS. That ...[text shortened]... ecause they have this PERSONAL relationship with their invisible friend. Makes me want to puke.
Sorry you feel the way you do sonhouse, but to me I do not go a day, without thanking my God for the greatest story ever told, that story being that my God, gave His Son to die for my sins. He has given me life, freedom, a loving family and health. I cannot imagine my life without my invisible friend. I hope that one day you can experience this faith and salvation as I have.
18 Apr 07
Originally posted by skeyeyWhat about going your whole life being a Christian and finding out that the Supreme Being was
look at it this way, I would rather go through my whole life being a Christian and then die, find out I was wrong about the whole thing; than to go through my whole life being an atheist and then die and find out I was wrong about the whole thing.
really the one that Mormons worship, or those of the Hindu religion? What if it is a Divine entity
who simply dislikes members of organized religions, but favors abstract spiritualists Buddhists or
Taoists or secular humanists who strive to live righteously?
How do these things figure into your theological equation?
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18 Apr 07
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Originally posted by EcstremeVenomThis reminds me of a Zen story—
no true Christian would give a damn about what other people think a true Christian would not do
Hakuin was a famous Zen master and Buddhist priest who lived in a hermitage in the hills above a fishing village. He was well-respected by everyone, as a wise and holy man.
One day, a girl of a poor family in the village discovered she was pregnant. The father was a lowly fishmonger, with whom she was in love, but who had seduced her. Because she (foolishly) still loved the man, and was afraid of what her parents might have done to him, when they discovered she was pregnant, she told them that the father was Hakuin.
When the baby was born, the parents took it up the hill to Hakuin—followed by about half the village—and said: “Here, you old phony! This is your child. So you take care of it!”
All Hakuin said was: “Is that so?” And the parents turned and marched back to the village.
Hakuin took very good care of the child, feeding it goat’s milk, singing it to sleep, changing its diapers and all that sort of thing. His reputation in the village was shot, and most of his Zen students left him in shame, but that didn’t seem to bother him.
After a month or so had gone by, the child’s mother was overcome by guilt and remorse at the lie she had told, and how Hakuin, once well-respected, had become the local pariah—all the while caring for her child. Finally, she could stand it no longer, and blurted out to her parents who the real father was.
The next day, the girl and her parents went up the hill and, apologizing profusely, asked Hakuin for the child, explaining what had happened.
Handing the child to its mother, all Hakuin said was: “Is that so?”
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There is another one about a painter. He was very famous, only did commissions for wealthy people and charged outrageous prices for his art.
He had a very bad reputation, and was the subject of many derogatory jokes and comments, due to his obvious greed, though people couldn’t figure out what he did with his money, since he lived in very humble circumstances, ate very plain food, never went out, and so on. Folks figured he was so greedy that he wouldn’t spend a cent more than he had to, and probably had his money buried around his house.
Years went by. When the orphanage and charity hospital that he had been funding with his commissions were finally completed, he threw away all his paint brushes and became a monk...
21 Apr 07
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Originally posted by vistesdJust to close out this failed thread—
This reminds me of a Zen story—
Hakuin was a famous Zen master and Buddhist priest who lived in a hermitage in the hills above a fishing village. He was well-respected by everyone, as a wise and holy man.
One day, a girl of a poor family in the village discovered she was pregnant. The father was a lowly fishmonger, with whom she was in love, but who ...[text shortened]... his commissions were finally completed, he threw away all his paint brushes and became a monk...
A few years ago, in my ignorance of such things, I bought what I thought was a peach tree—partly because that’s what the tag on the tree said it was. After I had planted it, a friend of mine came to visit. I showed him the tree. He said, “That’s a plum tree.”
"No, no,” I said. “It’s a peach tree. See there’s the tag.”
“Trust me,” he said, “it’s a plum.”
Well, when the plums came...
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Matthew 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? 17 In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus you will know them by their fruits.
Galatians 5:22 By contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control.
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by sonhouseYou need a hug....
I suppose you know the original line about waiting for the return of Christ was because they thought back 2000 years ago they were in the last days and it would only be a matter of weeks before everything got straightened out by their invisible friend. Well what have we now, 2000 years later telling the same sad tale. AND PEOPLE KEEP ON BUYING THIS BS. That ...[text shortened]... ecause they have this PERSONAL relationship with their invisible friend. Makes me want to puke.
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