29 May 05
Originally posted by David C
Why would you think? Surely you are bright enough, and the question is either rhetorical or a thread-bump....but I'll indulge:
Less pre-conceived notions ingrained through years of "righteous" indoctrination.
You must be joking ! I see that as a prejudice on your part.
29 May 05
Originally posted by LemonJelloOh brother.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa.htm
i never realized how much of jesus' life, as depicted in the NT, is strikingly similar to previous mythological characters.
anyone have any thoughts on this?
What can one say, except cut to the chase? What a load of crap!
I checked out your suggested site and I see how it could appeal to the weak-minded, and especially to those looking to bolster their unbelief. Because Jesus life included 20 of 22 characteristics that are identified by some 'scholar' in the lives of so many previous 'heros', we are supposed to conclude that the life of Jesus was the ultimate fiction? Am I getting this right?
I suggest we look at this the other way 'round. Where do myths come from? People make them up to demonstrate, or teach ideals. If not to their children, then to society at large. This does not detract from the value of the ideal, and it certainly shouldn't devalue anyone who approaches enacting those ideals in his life.
The suggestion that we should dismiss Jesus because He actually met most of man's standards of the ideal hero is ridiculous.
30 May 05
Originally posted by LemonJelloYes, Christianity is just another religion. It isn't too surprising that it contains ideas found elsewhere.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa.htm
i never realized how much of jesus' life, as depicted in the NT, is strikingly similar to previous mythological characters.
anyone have any thoughts on this?
Conservative Christians don't like this idea, but what else is new?
30 May 05
Originally posted by chinking58we are supposed to conclude that the life of Jesus was the ultimate fiction? Am I getting this right?
Oh brother.
What can one say, except cut to the chase? [b]What a load of crap!
I checked out your suggested site and I see how it could appeal to the weak-minded, and especially to those looking to bolster their unbelief. Because Jesus life included 20 of 22 characteristics that are identified by some 'scholar' in the lives of so many previ ...[text shortened]... smiss Jesus because He actually met most of man's standards of the ideal hero is ridiculous. [/b]
the website would have you think as much. however, i don't think anyone should conclude anything based on what is presented. the website just points out some similarities (many, actually). it is supposed to lend credence to the idea that jesus was just a literary character that was based largely on mythological characters. it's just a theory -- no more.
The suggestion that we should dismiss Jesus because He actually met most of man's standards of the ideal hero is ridiculous.
i agree with this. there are many much better reasons to consider dismissing jesus.
30 May 05
Originally posted by LemonJellothere are many much better reasons to consider dismissing jesus.
[b]we are supposed to conclude that the life of Jesus was the ultimate fiction? Am I getting this right?
the website would have you think as much. however, i don't think anyone should conclude anything based on what is presented. the website just points out some similarities (many, actually). it is supposed to lend credence to the idea that je ...[text shortened]... ous.[/b]
i agree with this. there are many much better reasons to consider dismissing jesus.[/b]
more oh brother
shall we start with your number one reason?
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30 May 05
Originally posted by chinking58Well for me it would be pretty plain why somebody would dismiss Jesus.
[b]there are many much better reasons to consider dismissing jesus.
more oh brother
shall we start with your number one reason?
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John makes it pretty clear:
John 1:10,11- "He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not."
Man hates the light because his works are evil.
30 May 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerSo why do you ignore Jesus and stick to your Pauline doctrine?
Well for me it would be pretty plain why somebody would dismiss Jesus.
John makes it pretty clear:
John 1:10,11- "He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not."
Man hates the light because his works are evil.
30 May 05
Originally posted by KneverKnightThe thumpers don't even like ideas ones that came from Christ, since they rarely quote Him, they prefer the OT or Paul.
Yes, Christianity is just another religion. It isn't too surprising that it contains ideas found elsewhere.
Conservative Christians don't like this idea, but what else is new?
31 May 05
Originally posted by chinking58i am not sure that i would classify my reasons according to a rank. please keep in mind that i said there are many reasons to 'consider', not many reasons to automatically dismiss.
[b]there are many much better reasons to consider dismissing jesus.
more oh brother
shall we start with your number one reason?
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how about we start with an assertion that christianity is a faith-based religion that is full of arbitrary dogma.