04 Feb 19
@fmf saidThat's not what it says in the OP.
They are simply rewarded for striving to be loving and good not for being flawless. There is nothing about the God of the OP creating a standard of performance a flawed being was unable to attain.
"Obey Him and you will have everlasting life." It's a performance based system. If one obeys, then they are rewarded with everlasting life.
The problem is, if they were not flawed they wouldn't need to be commanded to obey, and since they are flawed they cannot rightly obey.
They're doomed. The God of the OP is immoral for creating flawed beings unable to obey, and then requiring obedience for everlasting life.
What a horrible God.
04 Feb 19
@secondson saidNo, he isn't asking for something "impossible".
No, he's just dangling a carrot in their faces, and making it impossible to grasp. That's the epitome of immoral.
04 Feb 19
@secondson saidObeying him means "striving to be loving and good".
That's not what it says in the OP.
"Obey Him and you will have everlasting life." It's a performance based system. If one obeys, then they are rewarded with everlasting life.
04 Feb 19
@secondson saidIf they are unable to strive to be loving and good then when they die they die.
The problem is, if they were not flawed they wouldn't need to be commanded to obey, and since they are flawed they cannot rightly obey.
04 Feb 19
@secondson saidThe God of the OP has not created beings unable to strive to be loving and good.
The God of the OP is immoral for creating flawed beings unable to obey, and then requiring obedience for everlasting life.
05 Feb 19
@secondson saidEveryone eventually dies. That is the default-setting fact of life. This finite lifetime is all you've got. And yet, with the God of the OP, there is a chance of everlasting life: if one strives to be loving and good. If one strives to love their neighbours as themselves. If one strives not to deceive, damage or coerce. And so on and so forth. What's "horrible" about that?
What a horrible God.
@secondson saidNo, I am not. I am simply explaining the OP thought exercise to you. Remember, it was you who admitted about yourself: "I'm a little bit dense sometimes. You should have prefaced the OP indicating it was a hypothetical God/religion."
You keep modifying the game plan laid out in the OP.
05 Feb 19
@secondson saidThere is nothing "fickle" about the God of the OP.
How could one obey such a fickle God?
05 Feb 19
@secondson saidI am not changing the rules. I am simply explaining the thread topic to you.
you keep changing the rules to accommodate the God of the OP.
05 Feb 19
@bigdoggproblem saidLife is finite. People die of old age.
I'm not sure about that.
The God of the OP is essentially giving people the death penalty for refusing to obey it. That sounds like coercion to me.