Off My Chest

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Atheism does not produce anything. It is not a belief system.

Nobody does anything in the name of atheism.

You cannot blame atheism for anything .. except perhaps asking people to think and question archaic superstitions.

Atheism is the religion whose belief about God is that there is no God.

Some Atheists, for their own political reasons, assert that Atheism is not a religion but instead is the total absence of religion. This allows them to spread their Atheistic beliefs freely in societies which insist on "separation of church and state."

But this is like saying that "black," (which physicists define as the total absence of color) is not a color. A few years ago, the car I drove was a big, old Chevrolet, whose color was black. In common practice throughout the world, "black" is understood to be a color, despite the technical definition of the physicists. Likewise, "Atheism" is a religion, despite any technical definitions to the contrary.

If black is a color, then Atheism is a religion.

A United States Federal Court of Appeals has now ruled ruled that Atheism is, indeed, a religion, under U.S. law. See http://www.google.com/search?&q=atheism+religion+court+rule&btnG=Search for details.
If Atheism is a religion, then it must be subject to the same legal restrictions imposed by governments on all other religions. In particular, in the United States, the teaching of Atheism must be prohibited wherever the teaching of Christianity is prohibited.
But where is Atheism being taught? Atheism is being taught, by default, in all places where other religions cannot be taught, particularly in the public schools.

When the State mandates that the Theory of Evolution be taught as fact, that is establishing the religion of Atheism, because the Theory of Evolution asserts that all life forms are created not by God, but by pre-existing natural processes. This is pure Atheism! If we are not created by God, then there might as well be no God, for all the difference He makes.

The mere fact that many scientists are Atheists does not entitle them to establish Atheism as our State Religion!

When the State prohibits free discussion of God in the classroom, that is establishing the religion of Atheism. Wherever the State permits Atheistic ideas to be spread but prohibits Theistic ideas, that is establishing the religion of Atheism.

Rev. Bill McGinnis, Pastor
InternetChurchOFCHrist.org
Director - LoveAllPeople.org

Originally posted by RJHinds
Atheism is the religion whose belief about God is that there is no God.

Some Atheists, for their own political reasons, assert that Atheism is not a religion but instead is the total absence of religion. This allows them to spread their Atheistic beliefs freely in societies which insist on "separation of church and state."

But this is like saying tha ...[text shortened]...

Rev. Bill McGinnis, Pastor
InternetChurchOFCHrist.org
Director - LoveAllPeople.org

It is ok to be wrong.

Your post is a good example of this.

It is good if we can learn from our mistakes and use these lessons for the future.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Atheism is the religion whose belief about God is that there is no God.

Some Atheists, for their own political reasons, assert that Atheism is not a religion but instead is the total absence of religion. This allows them to spread their Atheistic beliefs freely in societies which insist on "separation of church and state."

But this is like saying tha ...[text shortened]...

Rev. Bill McGinnis, Pastor
InternetChurchOFCHrist.org
Director - LoveAllPeople.org

Religious beliefs and atheism should not be taught in public schools. Out side of governmental institutions, religious people and atheists can advocate however they want as long as it's peaceful.

Thank you for putting Rev. in front of your name. That tells me right away that I am dealing with some one caught up in a fantasy world.🙂

Originally posted by 667joe
Religious beliefs and atheism should not be taught in public schools. Out side of governmental institutions, religious people and atheists can advocate however they want as long as it's peaceful.

Thank you for putting Rev. in front of your name. That tells me right away that I am dealing with some one caught up in a fantasy world.🙂

That is not me that said this. My name is Ronald J. Hinds just a 67
year old retiree from the United States Army and the United States
Postal Service. I am not reverend or a preacher. I took this from
the Rev. McGinnis' website. However, he is on to something and
the courts are beginning to agree, it looks like. Why else would
you atheist be on a spirituality website spreading your propaganda?

Originally posted by RJHinds
That is not me that said this. My name is Ronald J. Hinds just a 67
year old retiree from the United States Army and the United States
Postal Service. I am not reverend or a preacher. I took this from
the Rev. McGinnis' website. However, he is on to something and
the courts are beginning to agree, it looks like. Why else would
you atheist be on a spirituality website spreading your propaganda?

The church is the king of spreading propaganda. Sorry about my error, but you are delusional because you believe the church's propaganda. Atheists have spirit and therefore are entitled to be in this forum!🙂

Originally posted by 667joe
The church is the king of spreading propaganda. Sorry about my error, but you are delusional because you believe the church's propaganda. Atheists have spirit and therefore are entitled to be in this forum!🙂

So do you agree with what the Holy Bible has to say about the spirit
and the Spirit?

Originally posted by 667joe
So far, I have not molested any children or burned any one at the stake.

I have not either and will not either, but you lumbed me in with those who did
with your post.
Kelly

Originally posted by RJHinds
Atheism is the religion whose belief about God is that there is no God.

Some Atheists, for their own political reasons, assert that Atheism is not a religion but instead is the total absence of religion. This allows them to spread their Atheistic beliefs freely in societies which insist on "separation of church and state."

But this is like saying tha ...[text shortened]...

Rev. Bill McGinnis, Pastor
InternetChurchOFCHrist.org
Director - LoveAllPeople.org

If black is a color, then Atheism is a religion.

How can we have a discussion with logic like this?

Originally posted by wolfgang59
If black is a color, then Atheism is a religion.

How can we have a discussion with logic like this?

The idea is that commonly speaking, black is a color.
Because if you went to a car dealer and told him you wanted to
buy a car with no color, they would probably look at you as if you
were crazy. So this is the same idea that we have when an atheist
says he has no belief system or religion. So commonly speaking,
Atheism is a belief system or religion. Sometimes, as a Christian,
I like to say I am not religious; but I know in reality most people
would commonly believe I am religious because Christianity is
believed to be a religion.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The idea is that commonly speaking, black is a color.
Because if you went to a car dealer and told him you wanted to
buy a car with no color, they would probably look at you as if you
were crazy. So this is the same idea that we have when an atheist
says he has no belief system or religion. So commonly speaking,
Atheism is a belief system or religion ...[text shortened]... eople
would commonly believe I am religious because Christianity is
believed to be a religion.

But nobody denies black is a color! (Yes you will find non-scientific sites quoting that physicists say "black is not a color" - an urban myth just like "scientists say that bees cannot fly" )

Originally posted by wolfgang59
If black is a color, then Atheism is a religion.

How can we have a discussion with logic like this?

Technically it's a "vacuously true" statement, since black is not a color. 😉

Originally posted by Soothfast
Technically it's a "vacuously true" statement, since black is not a color. 😉

If someone who does not collect stamps is a stamp collector, then atheism is a religion.

Originally posted by JS357
If someone who does not collect stamps is a stamp collector, then atheism is a religion.

Excellent!!!!!!

Originally posted by RJHinds
When the State mandates that the Theory of Evolution be taught as fact, that is establishing the religion of Atheism, because the Theory of Evolution asserts that all life forms are created not by God, but by pre-existing natural processes. This is pure Atheism! If we are not created by God, then there might as well be no God, for all the difference He makes.

I was right with you until you spouted this nonsense.

Ever hear of Evolutionary Creation?

Originally posted by 667joe
Religious beliefs and atheism should not be taught in public schools. Out side of governmental institutions, religious people and atheists can advocate however they want as long as it's peaceful.

Thank you for putting Rev. in front of your name. That tells me right away that I am dealing with some one caught up in a fantasy world.🙂

Oh yeah, we wouldn't want to colour our governmental institutions with "lies and untruths, all of the bloodshed, the torturing of innocent (witches and unbelievers),the anti gay propaganda, child molestation, human sacrifice, drinking of blood and eating of flesh (even though it's symbolic), the blocking of stem cell research, etc. etc."