Go back
Overthinking Christianity

Overthinking Christianity

Spirituality

mchill
Cryptic

Behind the scenes

Joined
27 Jun 16
Moves
3283
Clock
15 Aug 22
1 edit

I've noticed a number of atheists and agnostics here overthinking Christianity. Some with genuine questions, and some with the intention of discrediting it. I don't claim to have answers to all your questions, but the prayer used in my church sums up our relationship to God. Rather than overthinking it all, you might consider the fact that none of us has all the facts and that we simply have to take some things on faith. I hope this helps.

Most merciful God. We confess that we are in bondage to sin and cannot free ourselves. We have sinned against you in thought, word, and deed, by what we have done and by what we have left undone. We have not loved you with our whole heart; we have not loved our neighbors as ourselves. For the sake of your Son, Jesus Christ, have mercy on us. Forgive us, renew us, and lead us, so that we may delight in your will and walk in your ways, to the glory of your holy name. Amen 🙂

BigDogg
Secret RHP coder

on the payroll

Joined
26 Nov 04
Moves
155080
Clock
15 Aug 22
Vote Up
Vote Down

Not a good path for me. But it works for some people.

Rajk999
Kali

PenTesting

Joined
04 Apr 04
Moves
260885
Clock
15 Aug 22

@mchill said
I've noticed a number of atheists and agnostics here overthinking Christianity. Some with genuine questions, and some with the intention of discrediting it. I don't claim to have answers to all your questions, but the prayer used in my church sums up our relationship to God. Rather than overthinking it all, you might consider the fact that none of us has all the facts and that ...[text shortened]... , so that we may delight in your will and walk in your ways, to the glory of your holy name. Amen 🙂
The Lords Prayer. Your church prayer cannot supersede or override that. The Lords Prayer has stuff yours has excluded, and yours has stuff contrary to the Lords Prayer. I suggest your church revise it.

mike69

Joined
20 May 16
Moves
41851
Clock
15 Aug 22

@rajk999 said
The Lords Prayer. Your church prayer cannot supersede or override that. The Lords Prayer has stuff yours has excluded, and yours has stuff contrary to the Lords Prayer. I suggest your church revise it.
Is there really a need to put one another down as Christian’s. Should we instead help one another grow and be united as brothers and sisters in Christ? I’m also not insinuating one understanding over the other. To proclaim you know everything of a living word to each is foolishness. Take time to understand yours, pray and grow. To know only words without prayer for wisdom and knowledge doesn’t accomplish much.

mike69

Joined
20 May 16
Moves
41851
Clock
15 Aug 22

@bigdogg said
Not a good path for me. But it works for some people.
I wonder why?

divegeester
watching

STARMERGEDDON

Joined
16 Feb 08
Moves
120597
Clock
15 Aug 22
1 edit

@mchill said.

Most merciful God.
How do you define “most merciful God” within the context that he’s invisible and only communicates slightly mysteriously (some would say incoherently) via collection of writings written by a disparate group of people thousands of years ago… or by people claiming to know the ultimate truth and articulate that “truth” by making dark threats about this “most merciful God” burning them alive for all eternity, simply for not them not believing in him?

Interested in your thoughts on that specific exegesis please.

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
15 Aug 22

@rajk999 said
The Lords Prayer. Your church prayer cannot supersede or override that. The Lords Prayer has stuff yours has excluded, and yours has stuff contrary to the Lords Prayer. I suggest your church revise it.
It's not a contest, Solomon.

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
15 Aug 22

@divegeester said
How do you define “most merciful God” within the context that he’s invisible and only communicates slightly mysteriously (some would say incoherently) via collection of writings written by a disparate group of people thousands of years ago… or by people claiming to know the ultimate truth and articulate that “truth” by making dark threats about this “most merciful God” bu ...[text shortened]... for not them not believing in him?

Interested in your thoughts on that specific exegesis please.
When was the last time you talked to him?

divegeester
watching

STARMERGEDDON

Joined
16 Feb 08
Moves
120597
Clock
15 Aug 22

@suzianne said
When was the last time you talked to him?
You’re channelling Kevin Eleven again susi.

Kevin Eleven

Joined
06 May 15
Moves
27445
Clock
15 Aug 22

@divegeester said
You’re channelling Kevin Eleven again susi.
Have you tried channeling Christ?

Rajk999
Kali

PenTesting

Joined
04 Apr 04
Moves
260885
Clock
15 Aug 22
1 edit

@mike69 said
Is there really a need to put one another down as Christian’s. Should we instead help one another grow and be united as brothers and sisters in Christ? I’m also not insinuating one understanding over the other. To proclaim you know everything of a living word to each is foolishness. Take time to understand yours, pray and grow. To know only words without prayer for wisdom and knowledge doesn’t accomplish much.
What are you doing to help Christians to grow and to understand the importance of the Lords Prayer.

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
15 Aug 22

@divegeester said
You’re channelling Kevin Eleven again susi.
It's a legitimate question.

I see you pivoting away from Christianity daily. To the point of developing your own bizarre dogma.

Seems like you need to communicate honestly with him. You don't have to become a radical "Christian" to hold unconventional views. Many of my own views may be seen by the mainstream as unconventional, but that doesn't mean that I necessarily have to develop my own religion. My religion is still Episcopal Christianity. I can go to church and listen to what is said because 1) this denomination is the best match I have found to my "unconventional" views, and 2) there's nothing in my unconventionality that denies anything in the KJV.

Prayer is essential for a Christian. Approached with integrity, prayer brings one closer to God, which, after all, is the entire point of Christianity.

The Prodigal Son is still a powerful real story. If you think coming back to God will change your principles, perhaps those principles need updating/resetting/correcting.

divegeester
watching

STARMERGEDDON

Joined
16 Feb 08
Moves
120597
Clock
15 Aug 22

@suzianne said
It's a legitimate question.
Legitimate how?

It has nothing to do with the thread or any topic in it.

Kevin Eleven

Joined
06 May 15
Moves
27445
Clock
15 Aug 22

@mchill said
I've noticed a number of atheists and agnostics here overthinking Christianity. Some with genuine questions, and some with the intention of discrediting it. I don't claim to have answers to all your questions, but the prayer used in my church sums up our relationship to God. Rather than overthinking it all, you might consider the fact that none of us has all the facts and that ...[text shortened]... , so that we may delight in your will and walk in your ways, to the glory of your holy name. Amen 🙂
Thank you. I appreciate your having shared this.

mike69

Joined
20 May 16
Moves
41851
Clock
15 Aug 22

@rajk999 said
What are you doing to help Christians to grow and to understand the importance of the Lords Prayer.
It’s a very important prayer also used to be a structure for our own personal prayers. You, do you feel this prayer has all power over all prayers?

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.