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Originally posted by RJHinds
But doesn't God's grace supersede all.

You know, sometimes you really amaze me.

You come out with a statement like this, which is absolutely true, and I agree with you 100%, but then you deny this vehemently with all kinds of foolish arguments in my other thread! ("is God cruel..." )

Originally posted by CalJust
You know, sometimes you really amaze me.

You come out with a statement like this, which is absolutely true, and I agree with you 100%, but then you deny this vehemently with all kinds of foolish arguments in my other thread! ("is God cruel..." )

Gods grace supersedes all, Yes.
But not everyone will get into Gods good graces.
God has given his grace to ALL of mankind

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

So then why would these same Christians who say Gods grace supersedes all then say that many will be tormented in hell for all eternity. Where did the grace go.

Clearly they believe that Gods grace is for them only. Christ and the Apostles preached that BOTH faith and good works are required to get Gods grace which gives eternal life.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Gods grace supersedes all, Yes.
But not everyone will get into Gods good graces.
God has given his grace to ALL of mankind

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

So then why would these same Christians who say Gods grace supersedes all then say that many will be tormented in hell for all eternity. Wh ...[text shortened]... preached that BOTH faith and good works are required to get Gods grace which gives eternal life.

Ephesians 2:8-9

New International Version (NIV)

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.