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08 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBoofhead.
You don't seem to be able to make the connection between my truck being roadworthy and my being able to provide for my family??? even though I have intimated it to you. Perhaps I should have prayed for elves to come in when I was sleeping and magically fill the cupboards with food, the central heating with fuel and the wardrobes with clothes. Let m ...[text shortened]... are intrinsically linked, my truck and sustenance and covering, Capiche? There's a good fellow!
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08 May 16
Originally posted by divegeesterOn what basis do you draw your highly inaccurate conclusions? You are probably a Donald Trump supporter and a fan of Sarah Palin as well. Not to worry, Ben Carson can give you a lobotomy. Talk that over with your friend in the sky! By the way, no one has a higher opinion of you than I do and I think you are a thoughtless cruel anti social oaf!
Presumably you are talking to me and just don't know how to use the "reply and quote" button.
I face reality everyday; despite your perception, I am a pragmatist and successful in career, relationship and socially. I own my own home outright and could "retire" today if I wanted to. My beliefs are nothing to do with a "man in the sky" and your childlik ...[text shortened]... ce of your past deeds and sunken in your own pit of bitter despair.
So much for perceptions.
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09 May 16
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneYes, I agree. But God looks at the heart and my guess is, he would change circumstances so he would get the glory. Otherwise, I agree with your observation.
If God grants prayers for Muslims even though they are praying to a different god, wouldn't that falsely lead them to believe that they are praying to the true God? Seems like it would be natural for a Muslim to strengthen his belief based on this rather than weaken it. How does this make sense?
Matthew 12
25And knowing their thoughts Jesus said to t ...[text shortened]... vided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself will not stand.
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09 May 16
Originally posted by twhiteheadFor what? You claim they didn't cure your son, God did.
For what? You claim they didn't cure your son, God did.
[b]But we should go to a doctor when sick, combined with prayer. Usually the faith of people is so weak, we would be dead without doctors.
Can you point to anyone whose faith is so strong that they don't need doctors?
And what does faith have to do with it? Does the strength of your faith af ...[text shortened]... elief of a community.[/b]
So when some people don't believe, other peoples prayer doesn't work?[/b]
So, God can't work through a doctor? Can he not guide his hands?
You have a limited view of your idea of what God can do.
Can you point to anyone whose faith is so strong that they don't need doctors?
No, because you don't read links, I would point you to.
Does the strength of your faith affect the efficacy of your prayers? Does God only answer the prayers of those strong in faith?
I think so, yes.
Can you explain that further because it seem very vague to me. You are saying the 'unbelief' of people causes other people to have weak faith?
Yes. Faith is trust. This requires a mind. Whatever you look at, experience in this world, what you take into your mind affects faith tremendously.
Someone once said that if you put away everything, t.v., magazines, newspapers, all worldly input and just feed your mind what God says, trust would grow by leaps and bounds.
So when some people don't believe, other peoples prayer doesn't work?
Yes, that is why at times Jesus put people outside and only brought in those of faith.
That is why Jesus did not many mighty works in certain areas.
There is more to it that I understand, but in general, yes, this is the case.
09 May 16
Originally posted by 667joePray to God/Jesus/Allah?
People pray to God/Jesus/Allah all the time and from time to time think their prayers are answered. For example, people may pray that team X will win the super bowl and believe their prayer was answered when team X wins. Notice, however, if someone missing an arm prays for it to grow back, the prayer is never answered. The bottom line is whoever wins the ...[text shortened]... d prayer has the same effect on the super bowl as it does on growing an arm back.......nothing!
Well there is your problem right there. No one will answer to that name. 😛
09 May 16
Originally posted by checkbaiterBut God looks at the heart and my guess is, he would change circumstances so he would get the glory.
Yes, I agree. But God looks at the heart and my guess is, he would change circumstances so he would get the glory. Otherwise, I agree with your observation.
What exactly do you have in mind here? Specifically regarding "he would change circumstances so he would get the glory"
Originally posted by 667joeWhat's up Joe; like to diss all over people's beliefs but can't take a bit of push-back. Maybe it's your own 'belief system' that is a house of cards, ever considered that?
On what basis do you draw your highly inaccurate conclusions? You are probably a Donald Trump supporter and a fan of Sarah Palin as well. Not to worry, Ben Carson can give you a lobotomy. Talk that over with your friend in the sky! By the way, no one has a higher opinion of you than I do and I think you are a thoughtless cruel anti social oaf!
As I said, so much for perceptions.
09 May 16
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Originally posted by googlefudgeHow interesting that you assume to assign blame and priority where there is none in the original post.
That's not in any way proof of prayer working, or even evidence for prayer working.
More to the point.
Thousands/million pray every day for friends and loved ones who are sick/injured
who go on to die.
Your claim that god stepped in and helped in this case necessarily means that you
believe that god decided that this person or your prayers w ...[text shortened]... r god].
The arrogance and lack of empathy or morality required to believe that is staggering.