18 Jun 13
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThis thread should be titled "Rhetorical Question".
I'll take a guess to get the conversation moving: experiencing some deeper meaning or purpose in life as opposed to abject resignation that it's just a series of distractions until you die [without an afterlife] while denying the existence of god.
Originally posted by LemonJelloIt's just that I have to sit here and listen to athiests who think they are masters of logic, and then they somehow can't understand their mother tongue. When pressed, they're all like "define every word in your question and I'll get back to you", like Christians are no better than trained seals.
I see your panties are still bunched.
Originally posted by SuzianneHe didn't ask for definition of every word in the question. He asked for some clarification on a particular term, 'spiritual fulfillment'. Sounds reasonable to me.
It's just that I have to sit here and listen to athiests who think they are masters of logic, and then they somehow can't understand their mother tongue. When pressed, they're all like "define every word in your question and I'll get back to you", like Christians are no better than trained seals.
EDIT: And it's a good thing he asked too, since the subsequent response from Bobby exposed how silly the original intended question actually is.
Originally posted by Suzianneasking for definition is a fair question. bobby asked a question to atheists but used a word that usually only has meaning to theists. thus making the question redundant. as bobby knows this (i presume) then its fair to surmise that bobby also gives the word a non-religious meaning and what that exactly is, is still a mystery and makes the question hard to answer for an atheist. to answer it, i needed to give the question my own meaning.
Look, twhitehead, you DO own a dictionary, don't you?
You don't want to answer? Then here's a clue. Don't answer.
He doesn't have to do linguistic gymnastics for your giggles.
18 Jun 13
Originally posted by LemonJelloWhy is it GB's problem?
He didn't ask for definition of every word in the question. He asked for some clarification on a particular term, 'spiritual fulfillment'. Sounds reasonable to me.
I'm sure PK has a dictionary if he needs a refresher.
Here's some he doesn't even have to get up to find:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
http://dictionary.reference.com/
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/
http://oxforddictionaries.com/
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/
There ya go, a half dozen, tell him to take his pick and leave those of us who understand English alone.
18 Jun 13
Originally posted by stellspalfieHow is it redundant? Atheists don't suddenly forget their knowledge of English, do they? Do they?
asking for definition is a fair question. bobby asked a question to atheists but used a word that usually only has meaning to theists. thus making the question redundant. as bobby knows this (i presume) then its fair to surmise that bobby also gives the word a non-religious meaning and what that exactly is, is still a mystery and makes the question hard to answer for an atheist. to answer it, i needed to give the question my own meaning.
18 Jun 13
Originally posted by SuzianneWell, of course it's GB's problem if persons do not understand what he means by a question he puts forth. That's a basic problem in the course of dialogue. GB didn't have a problem with the question of clarification and responded in kind, probably because he realized that he owes it to the participants of the thead to properly ground the discussion (it's just that his response revealed the true nature of his inquiry, which is silly). What's your problem?
Why is it GB's problem?
I'm sure PK has a dictionary if he needs a refresher.
Here's some he doesn't even have to get up to find:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
http://dictionary.reference.com/
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/
http://oxforddictionaries.com/
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/
There ya go, a half dozen, tell him to take his pick and leave those of us who understand English alone.
18 Jun 13
Originally posted by stellspalfieAnd yet NO one has actually answered his question.
asking for definition is a fair question. bobby asked a question to atheists but used a word that usually only has meaning to theists. thus making the question redundant. as bobby knows this (i presume) then its fair to surmise that bobby also gives the word a non-religious meaning and what that exactly is, is still a mystery and makes the question hard to answer for an atheist. to answer it, i needed to give the question my own meaning.
Typical.
Originally posted by LemonJelloMy problem is dishonesty.
Well, of course it's GB's problem if persons do not understand what he means by a question he puts forth. That's a basic problem in the course of dialogue. GB didn't have a problem with the question of clarification and responded in kind, probably because he realized that he owes it to the participants of the thead to properly ground the discussion (it' ...[text shortened]... s response revealed the true nature of his inquiry, which is silly). What's your problem?
If you don't want to answer, you can say so, or >gasp< you can just not answer. Why do you all always suddenly have amnesia about what term the person is asking about?
'Clarification'? Really? How often do you need 'clarification' during your normal day? If you do, you know they do have remedial English classes at most universities, no prerequisite needed.
Originally posted by LemonJelloooooooooh, essay quality, that one.
What are you talking about? I answered his question, based on his initial clarifications.
My answer was "Well, of course atheists experience "some deeper meaning or purpose in life"."
Do Atheists experience spiritual fulfillment; if so, with what or whom; and how?Looks like you answered one. Two more to go, eh? Need a grammar refresher too?