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Originally posted by sonship

Do you even have experience raising children ?
I am pretty sure that if you had kids you sometimes WARNED them of things NOT to do. But you had to allow them to make their own decision about it.

Am I right?

( You seemed to ignore what I wrote about the tree of life and a family relationship also being man's choice to take or ignore. )

So as a responsible parent you warn your
children about playing with matches.

Then (with precognition) you leave them
alone in the house with a box of matches
and a can of gasoline.

It's OK because you want them to make their own decision.

Originally posted by josephw
Incorrect!

The original prototype(Adam)was flawless in design and manufacturing as evidenced by his innate ability of volition, including the fact that he was given advanced warning not to make the fatal choice, upon which all warranties were made nil and void.

Also incorrect, since the original manufacturer knew well in advance the outcome of the original prototype. There was no need to make a test like that since the original manufacturer knew full well this prototype would fail that test. Therefore the onus is on that manufacturer for cynically putting up the prototype for failure. Obviously it gave great joy to the manufacturer to have made such a joke.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Also incorrect, since the original manufacturer knew well in advance the outcome of the original prototype. There was no need to make a test like that since the original manufacturer knew full well this prototype would fail that test. Therefore the onus is on that manufacturer for cynically putting up the prototype for failure. Obviously it gave great joy to the manufacturer to have made such a joke.

What is your proof that the original manufacturer knew well in advance the outcome of the original prototype?

Originally posted by FMF
I was a Christian for decades. That was my "homework" I suppose. If you reckon your conduct and the content of your posts here can turn non-believers into Christians, then you go for it.

If you were a Christian for that long and did your homework then you must have read the following:

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

(Romans 1:18-23 NKJV)

Originally posted by RJHinds
If you were a Christian for that long and did your homework then you must have read the following:

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of ...[text shortened]... ble man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

(Romans 1:18-23 NKJV)

Which of course is utter nonsense, bullshyte from day one since the whole edifice of religion was made by men, no god needed and no god is here to help with all our boo boo's. A hundred million dead in wars prove that.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Which of course is utter nonsense, bullshyte from day one since the whole edifice of religion was made by men, no god needed and no god is here to help with all our boo boo's. A hundred million dead in wars prove that.

If you would read on a little further you would read that God will not help the unrighteous. So your complaint is nonsense.

Originally posted by vivify
*yawn.

A) Your god could've just put some barrier around the tree in the Garden. No sin, no violation of free will.

B) Your god could've stopped Adam and Eve from having the ability to reproduce. They could bang away all they like, no violation of free will, no uncountable amount of needless suffering.

C) Your god could've stopped the snake from ...[text shortened]... o stop the unfathomable amount suffering that resulted?

God is completely the one to blame.

And there is the part where this so-called god is omniscient so it would have known before it made the universe what the result of the tree incident would have been but did it anyway, probably got a good laugh out of it. A despicable god if ever there was one. Knowing in advance the result means it didn't have to do the experiment in the first place.

Knowing that, it is clear the whole edifice of the bible is 100% man made, no deity allowed.

Originally posted by RJHinds
If you would read on a little further you would read that God will not help the unrighteous. So your complaint is nonsense.

So in your despicable words, those 100 million DESERVED to die. You are a word I cannot even find in the dictionary. What is the word for an insensitive creep who would much rather live in the tenth century where that person can lord it over everyone or else send out the inquisitors.

Originally posted by sonhouse
So in your despicable words, those 100 million DESERVED to die. You are a word I cannot even find in the dictionary. What is the word for an insensitive creep who would much rather live in the tenth century where that person can lord it over everyone or else send out the inquisitors.

Religious fanatic with delusions of grandeur.