27 Feb 05
Originally posted by ivangriceNot all people fall into one of those two groups (I don't). A few points have been raised in these threads that I wasn't aware of; for example, that the evidence for the historicity of Jesus is pretty slim. Therefore, if people can learn something from the debates then they can be worthwhile if there are points raised and discussed rather than either side making simple assertions and refusing to debate.
Has anyone ever experienced a committed Christian being won over by atheist argument? Or a committed atheist being won over by a Christian argument?
27 Feb 05
Originally posted by no1marauderJust wondering if anyone has ever seen an entrenched position change...
Not all people fall into one of those two groups (I don't). A few points have been raised in these threads that I wasn't aware of; for example, that the evidence for the historicity of Jesus is pretty slim. Therefore, if people can learn something from the debates then they can be worthwhile if there are points raised and discussed rather than either side making simple assertions and refusing to debate.
28 Feb 05
Originally posted by no1marauder
Not all people fall into one of those two groups (I don't). A few points have been raised in these threads that I wasn't aware of; for example, that the evidence for the historicity of Jesus is pretty slim. Therefore, if people can learn something from the debates then they can be worthwhile if there are points raised and discussed rather than either side making simple assertions and refusing to debate.
You're neither a Christian nor an Atheist ? Then what are you No1 ?
28 Feb 05
Originally posted by ivangriceWith the Power of the Holy Spirit I have heard Testamonies of Atheist come to Christ from being Preached to by a friend of theirs that was a Christian.
Has anyone ever experienced a committed Christian being won over by atheist argument? Or a committed atheist being won over by a Christian argument?
28 Feb 05
Originally posted by ivangriceThis is a very fair question.
Has anyone ever experienced a committed Christian being won over by atheist argument? Or a committed atheist being won over by a Christian argument?
But I think #1's point is at the essence of it. Certainly, those who are 'entrenched'
aren't going anywhere, but there are many people 'on the fence,' deciding into which
camp they will settle. These debates afford them the 'sides' of each position, allowing
them to make an informed decision before committing.
I know I don't have any chance of compelling Rwingett that, because I am an active
member in a particular faith organization, I am not a brainwashed lout trying to
convert the world. And I know that I am not going to convince Darfius that there are
errors in the Bible.
But, for those people who aren't sure that being part of a religious group could be
a rewarding experience, but you don't have to be a literalist nutcase to be part of that
group, I hope that I can give that person encouragement to feel comfortable with their
decision.
Nemesio
28 Feb 05
Originally posted by no1marauder
A few points have been raised in these threads that I wasn't aware of; for example, that the evidence for the historicity of Jesus is pretty slim.
A pointer. When you make a statement such as that, you come across as quite ignorant, perhaps even unintelligent. Few athiests have issues with the historicity of Christ, it is commonly accepted that He actually existed. Indeed the attempt to discredit Christianity is not in the existance of Christ, but the authenticity of His miracles. The attempt to play the 'convert to agnostic' is rather superficial.
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