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Originally posted by @fmf
Judging by your post earlier on this page, you seem to be convinced that these "cataclysmic and inexplicable events" are going to happen during Ghost of Duke's lifetime. You also seem to have determined this timing from astrology. Is that what you want people here to think?
Astrology?
Where do you get such a ridiculous notion?
What part is causing you trouble: understanding that what is described in Revelation 12 is about to happen in the sky; or how we know it's about ready to happen?

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Originally posted by @freakykbh
Astrology?
Where do you get such a ridiculous notion?
What part is causing you trouble: understanding that what is described in Revelation 12 is about to happen in the sky; or how we know it's about ready to happen?
Yes, astrology. That's what your OP is about. That's the basis of your predictions.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Yes, astrology. That's what your OP is about. That's the basis of your predictions.
Wow.
Is it desperation which leads to your attempt to change definitions?
Astronomy is the study of the universe and its contents outside of Earth's atmosphere. Astronomers examine the positions, motions, and properties of celestial objects.
Astrology attempts to study how those positions, motions, and properties affect people and events on Earth.

That's a workable definition above.
Between the italicized and the emboldened portions, how can you possibly twist the description in the Bible--- and what we're preparing to literally observe in the sky within a month or so--- into "astrology"?

The Bible doesn't say anything at all about people or events being shaped by the placement of heavenly bodies in the sky above earth.
It does, however, use the same as markers for man: signs of the times.

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Originally posted by @freakykbh
Wow.
Is it desperation which leads to your attempt to change definitions?
[quote]Astronomy is the study of the universe and its contents outside of Earth's atmosphere. Astronomers examine the positions, motions, and properties of celestial objects.
[b]Astrology attempts to study how those positions, motions, and properties affect people and even ...[text shortened]... in the sky above earth.
It does, however, use the same as markers for man: signs of the times.
What makes you think I would be engaging in "desperation"?

Virgo. Leo. Star signs. The alignment of stars and constellations. The supposed link to events on earth affecting humans. The way it appeals to and preoccupies the primitive or facile parts of the human mind and imagination. This is astrology.

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Originally posted by @freakykbh to Ghost of a Duke
When cataclysmic and inexplicable events come crashing down in lock step with prophesies and dreams from thousands of years before, do you think you'll be standing on the sidelines sucking your teeth, nonchalantly insisting it's all just so quaint?
So you are asserting that these "cataclysmic and inexplicable events" are going to happen during Ghost of Duke's lifetime?

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Originally posted by @freakykbh
There are millions of stars in the expanse.
How did we decide to use the limited amount of them to form constellations?
What significance do those constellations hold?
How long have we seen these constellations in the forms currently recognized?

What do they mean?
There are millions of stars in the expanse. [...]

What significance do those constellations hold? [...]

What do they mean?


This is the realm of astrology.

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Originally posted by @fmf
What makes you think I would be engaging in "desperation"?

Virgo. Leo. Star signs. The alignment of stars and constellations. The supposed link to events on earth affecting humans. The way it appeals to and preoccupies the primitive or facile parts of the human mind and imagination. This is astrology.
And nearly none of that applies.
The placement of the heavenly bodies doesn't cause anything.
Why are you only reading a portion of each sentence or paragraph, fooling yourself into believing you understand the whole?
The signs in the heavens merely let man know what time it is.
We use the sun in this exact same manner, albeit on a much smaller scale, and this is not astrology.

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Originally posted by @fmf
[b]There are millions of stars in the expanse. [...]

What significance do those constellations hold? [...]

What do they mean?


This is the realm of astrology.[/b]
Again, wrong.

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Originally posted by @fmf
So you are asserting that these "cataclysmic and inexplicable events" are going to happen during Ghost of Duke's lifetime?
I am asserting that it is very likely to happen, in light of what is verifiable up to this point, in addition to what is about to happen... again: verifiable physical realities.

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Originally posted by @freakykbh
Again, wrong.
Are you seriously claiming that asking questions like What significance do those constellations hold? and What do the stars mean? is not astrology?

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Originally posted by @freakykbh
I am asserting that it is very likely to happen, in light of what is verifiable up to this point, in addition to what is about to happen... again: verifiable physical realities.
You seem to be claiming, because of your astrological 'analysis', that supposedly imminent "cataclysmic and inexplicable events" are verifiable physical realities. Surely you're not serious?

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Originally posted by @freakykbh
The placement of the heavenly bodies doesn't cause anything.[...]
The signs in the heavens merely let man know what time it is.
"Astrology is the study of the movements and relative positions of celestial objects as a means for divining information about human affairs and terrestrial events." Whichever way one dissects what you have claimed so far on this thread, it is astrology.

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I'd just like to point out that the constellation Leo is not a representation of a dragon.

It's just a lion.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Again, there are millions of stars in Leo. What difference does it make adding 3 more?

9 is arbitrary, and meaningless.
How many of Leo's stars are actually visible to the naked eye?

9 sounds like it could be close.

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Originally posted by @suzianne
How many of Leo's stars are actually visible to the naked eye?

9 sounds like it could be close.
Do you think FreakyKBH is onto something?

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