Spirituality
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29 Jul 06
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Originally posted by PawnokeyholeYou obviously are an individual who is of age. Yet you speak as all lost men do when facing a change in their way of thinking.
Regardless of whether royaltystatement's views are right or wrong, isn't the most noticeable feature of his posts that they positively drip with egotism?
royaltystatement proudly parades his almighty and vengeful God before RHPers with all the self-deluding assurance of a narcissistic, child who declares importantly to his playmates that his toys are umination?
Perhaps we could hear your message better if who you are didn't speak so loud.
Stuck.
Alot of adults do not accept truth(especially men) because "their" truths are the very backbone of their lives and aspirations. If they were to be proven incorrect in their views, then they believe that their lives will become shattered with no hope in restoration.
Broad is the road which leads to damnation, for many walk on it.
Yet narrow is the path which leds to peace.
Why is there weather? Why doesn't the Earth just be sunny and never get dark and we just did whatever we wanted and never died? Why do apples grow crunchy and grapes juicy? Why are there animals yet no animal is as smart as us? Why do humans think of doing everything?
"That's just how it is" Many of you answer. But with faith I know why the Earth is as it is or why there is weather and why anything that exists is here. My answer is simple, yet you fools choose to complicate your lives with questions of "What if?"
What if there wasn't a God? Then science was born. I tell you men to go and "experiment" to find your own answers. I lean not on my own understanding, for wisdom is wise and stretches like infinate sky's. Who can grasp all of wisdom and hold her in his hands being apart from the GOD of Heaven. The intelligence of man is only reflective in the physical world. He can create the side walk and the street, yet the flower will allways grow through the cracks in the concrete.
29 Jul 06
Originally posted by royaltystatementOK, it's like this:
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The Tao gives birth to all of creation.
The virtue of Tao in nature nurtures them,
and their family give them their form.
Their environment then shapes them into completion.
That is why every creature honors the Tao and its virtue.
No one tells them to honor the Tao and its virtue,
it happens all by itself.
So the Tao gives them birth,
and its virtue cultivates them,
cares for them,
nurtures them,
gives them a place of refuge and peace,
helps them to grow and shelters them.
It gives them life without wanting to posses them,
and cares for them expecting nothing in return.
It is their master, but it does not seek to dominate them.
This is called the dark and mysterious virtue.
Lao Tzu
29 Jul 06
Originally posted by no1marauderI say GOD, no just a force, a being, not just some energy.
OK, it's like this:
The Tao gives birth to all of creation.
The virtue of Tao in nature nurtures them,
and their family give them their form.
Their environment then shapes them into completion.
That is why every creature honors the Tao and its virtue.
No one tells them to honor the Tao and its virtue,
it happens all by itself.
S ...[text shortened]... it does not seek to dominate them.
This is called the dark and mysterious virtue.
Lao Tzu
29 Jul 06
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Originally posted by no1marauderI don't have to not know, The Bible tells me and I know, the same way you read Lao Tzu and believe you know.
To know that you do not know is the best.
To pretend to know when you do not know is a disease.
Lao Tzu
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29 Jul 06
Originally posted by royaltystatementI notice that you have completed sidestepped the issue of your egotism, as if I never mentioned it.
You obviously are an individual who is of age. Yet you speak as all lost men do when facing a change in their way of thinking.
Stuck.
Alot of adults do not accept truth(especially men) because "their" truths are the very backbone of their lives and aspirations. If they were to be proven incorrect in their views, then they believe that their lives ...[text shortened]... and the street, yet the flower will allways grow through the cracks in the concrete.
Probably a good strategy. Helps you to maintain the self-deception.
Anyhow, I'd like to take issue with a statement you made.
"But with faith I know why...[etc.]"
The point of faith is that it operates in the absence of knowledge. It doesn't provide it. If knowledge were provided, then there wouldn't be any need for faith, would there?
What you are saying is that you feel an overwhelming subjective certitude that various metaphysical propositions are true, and that your certitude is so overwhelming, that you couldn't possibly be wrong.
Well, you aren't the first person to be in this position. Indeed, there have been lots of people in this position. Oddly enough, they have believed contradictory things, which suffices to show that at least one of them is wrong; and if one is, why not all?
I spoke to an Islamic fundamentalist once. He went on exactly like you did--positively gushing with infallibility and disdain--except that for him it was Islam that was true, and not Christianity.
I'd like to see the two of you go head to head. In fact, I'd pay to see it.