Originally posted by blindfaith101oh ,,good you're back 🙂 and asking for more Truth, too!! Now where was I?...oh yes ,,I remember :
Let the thruth be told, the only ones that will suffer must in Hell. Will be those that not only rejected the truth, but made fun of the truth.
Those whose name he knew first were called last, so that the one who has knowledge is he whose name the Father has pronounced. For he whose name has not been spoken is ignorant. Indeed, how shall one hear if his name has not been uttered? For he who remains ignorant until the end is a creature of forgetfulness and will perish with it. If this is not so, why have these wretches no name, why do they have no sound? Hence, if one has knowledge, he is from above. If he is called, he hears, he replies, and he turns toward him who called him and he ascends to him and he knows what he is called. Since he has knowledge, he does the will of him who called him. He desires to please him and he finds rest. He receives a certain name. He who thus is going to have knowledge knows whence he came and whither he is going. He knows it as a person who, having become intoxicated, has turned from his drunkenness and having come to himself, has restored what is his own.
Some of the following Truth is about things not of this world,,do you want me too continue?
Originally posted by frogstompPlease continue. But please remembe that those that are called. Whether they be first or last shall recieve a rward from GOD. Much greater then they could ever imagine. GOD has promised and will do all HE promised, for those that chose to Serve and Worship HIM. And will punish all those that refuse to Obey HIM and HIS WORD.
oh ,,good you're back 🙂 and asking for more Truth, too!! Now where was I?...oh yes ,,I remember :
Those whose name he knew first were called last, so that the one who has knowledge is he whose name the Father has pronounced. For he whose name has not been spoken is ignorant. Indeed, how shall one hear if his name has not been uttered? For ...[text shortened]... of the following Truth is about things not of this world,,do you want me too continue?
Originally posted by blindfaith101He has turned many from error. He went before them to their own places, from which they departed when they erred because of the depth of him who surrounds every place, whereas there is nothing which surrounds him. It was a great wonder that they were in the Father without knowing him and that they were able to leave on their own, since they were not able to contain him and know him in whom they were, for indeed his will had not come forth from him. For he revealed it as a knowledge with which all its emanations agree, namely, the knowledge of the living book which he revealed to the Aeons at last as his letters, displaying to them that these are not merely vowels nor consonants, so that one may read them and think of something void of meaning; on the contrary, they are letters which convey the truth. They are pronounced only when they are known. Each letter is a perfect truth like a perfect book, for they are letters written by the hand of the unity, since the Father wrote them for the Aeons, so that they by means of his letters might come to know the Father
Please continue. But please remembe that those that are called. Whether they be first or last shall recieve a rward from GOD. Much greater then they could ever imagine. GOD has promised and will do all HE promised, for those that chose to Serve and Worship HIM. And will punish all those that refuse to Obey HIM and HIS WORD.
there's still more Truth if you want.
While his wisdom mediates on the logos, and since his teaching expresses it, his knowledge has been revealed. His honor is a crown upon it. Since his joy agrees with it, his glory exalted it. It has revealed his image. It has obtained his rest. His love took bodily form around it. His trust embraced it. Thus the logos of the Father goes forth into the All, being the fruit of his heart and expression of his will. It supports the All. It chooses and also takes the form of the All, purifying it, and causing it to return to the Father and to the Mother, Jesus of the utmost sweetness. The Father opens his bosom, but his bosom is the Holy Spirit. He reveals his hidden self which is his son, so that through the compassion of the Father the Aeons may know him, end their wearying search for the Father and rest themselves in him, knowing that this is rest. After he had filled what was incomplete, he did away with form. The form of it is the world, that which it served. For where there is envy and strife, there is an incompleteness; but where there is unity, there is completeness. Since this incompleteness came about because they did not know the Father, so when they know the Father, incompleteness, from that moment on, will cease to exist. As one's ignorance disappears when he gains knowledge, and as darkness disappears when light appears, so also incompleteness is eliminated by completeness. Certainly, from that moment on, form is no longer manifest, but will be dissolved in fusion with unity. For now their works lie scattered. In time unity will make the spaces complete. By means of unity each one will understand itself. By means of knowledge it will purify itself of diversity with a view towards unity, devouring matter within itself like fire and darkness by light, death by life.
Certainly, if these things have happened to each one of us, it is fitting for us, surely, to think about the All so that the house may be holy and silent for unity. Like people who have moved from a neighborhood, if they have some dishes around which are not good, they usually break them. Nevertheless the householder does not suffer a loss, but rejoices, for in the place of these defective dishes there are those which are completely perfect. For this is the judgement which has come from above and which has judged every person, a drawn two-edged sword cutting on this side and that. When it appeared, I mean, the Logos, who is in the heart of those who pronounce it - it was not merely a sound but it has become a body - a great disturbance occurred among the dishes, for some were emptied, others filled: some were provided for, others were removed; some were purified, still others were broken. All the spaces were shaken and disturbed for they had no composure nor stability. Error was disturbed not knowing what it should do. It was troubled; it lamented, it was beside itself because it did not know anything. When knowledge, which is its abolishment, approached it with all its emanations, error is empty, since there is nothing in it. Truth appeared; all its emanations recognized it. They actually greeted the Father with a power which is complete and which joins them with the Father. For each one loves truth because truth is the mouth of the Father. His tongue is the Holy Spirit, who joins him to truth attaching him to the mouth of the Father by his tongue at the time he shall receive the Holy Spirit.
not yet halfway done,,, more truth?
Originally posted by frogstompcopy....paste....copy....paste....
While his wisdom mediates on the logos, and since his teaching expresses it, his knowledge has been revealed. His honor is a crown upon it. Since his joy agrees with it, his glory exalted it. It has revealed his image. It has obtained his rest. His love took bodily form around it. His trust embraced it. Thus the logos of the Father goes forth into the All, ...[text shortened]... e at the time he shall receive the Holy Spirit.
not yet halfway done,,, more truth?
Originally posted by frogstompYou seem to have gotten your hands on knowledege that most cannot obtain. In fact you seem to have the account of what was said and done when Lucifer and the third of the angels rebelled and understood the mistake that they made.
He has turned many from error. He went before them to their own places, from which they departed when they erred because of the depth of him who surrounds every place, whereas there is nothing which surrounds him. It was a great wonder that they were in the Father without knowing him and that they were able to leave on their own, since they were not able t ...[text shortened]... ans of his letters might come to know the Father
there's still more Truth if you want.
Please continue,from where have you gotten this knowledge.
Originally posted by frogstompmother Jesus?
While his wisdom mediates on the logos, and since his teaching expresses it, his knowledge has been revealed. His honor is a crown upon it. Since his joy agrees with it, his glory exalted it. It has revealed his image. It has obtained his rest. His love took bodily form around it. His trust embraced it. Thus the logos of the Father goes forth into the All, ...[text shortened]... e at the time he shall receive the Holy Spirit.
not yet halfway done,,, more truth?
You seem to be talking about that day when all the enemies of GOD, in all of exsistance will come to worship THE MOST HIGH.
Originally posted by no1marauderAre not viruses, bacteria and sponges living creatures? Do they not have the intelligence to survive and multiply? Do they not do what they were created to do? Yes I do believe they have intelligence. Yes, I believe they are being obedient to the will of GOD.
How exactly will viruses, bacteria and sponges "worship" God? Will the Almighty give these things intelligence? Or do they already have it in your view?
Originally posted by ivanhoeThank you, Ivanhoe. The question is in response to the following statements by BF101:
Your questions are becoming more intelligent every day, No1.
The Father created all life to worship Him.
All creation was created to worship God and all creation shall
All of creation will come to worship God
As virsuses, bacteria and sponges are life they must eventually come to worship God by BF's statements. As this is a new theology to me, I was curious as to how exactly these little critters will "worship" God. Is there anything in RCC doctrine that would shed light on this question? I don't seem to recall being taught in my RCC elementary and secondary school days this particular doctrine, but perhaps there is something in the Cathecism stating how viruses, bacteria and sponges will come to "worship" God.
Originally posted by blindfaith101So of all of creation, only human beings are vile and degraded enough to be disobedient to God? What were viruses, bacteria and sponges "created" to do but to worship God (see Statement #1 of yours above)? So you believe these creatures are all obedient servants of God but Man is not? Do viruses sin?
Are not viruses, bacteria and sponges living creatures? Do they not have the intelligence to survive and multiply? Do they not do what they were created to do? Yes I do believe they have intelligence. Yes, I believe they are being obedient to the will of GOD.
Originally posted by no1marauder
Thank you, Ivanhoe. The question is in response to the following statements by BF101:
The Father created all life to worship Him.
All creation was created to worship God and all creation shall
All of creation will come to worship God
As virsuses, bacteria and sponges are life they must eventually ...[text shortened]... ething in the Cathecism stating how viruses, bacteria and sponges will come to "worship" God.
They will take their hats off and kneel down for their creator, genius.
Something you with all your intelligence haven't thought about doing so far.
Originally posted by no1marauderYes I do. Just as the trees, animals, plants, inscets and all bugs. They all do what GOD created them to do.
So of all of creation, only human beings are vile and degraded enough to be disobedient to God? What were viruses, bacteria and sponges "created" to do but to worship God (see Statement #1 of yours above)? So you believe these creatures are all obedient servants of God but Man is not? Do viruses sin?