19 Apr 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThere has been conflict, food shortages and earthquakes on this planet for thousands of years.
yes, but so what, the sign is composite and its just like an atheistic sapling to attempt to take them out of context and view them in isolation, the thing we need to appreciate is that these composite parts would exist together to form a whole, therefore we have a global conflict and food shortages, and earthquakes etc etc its not and/or but and/and
19 Apr 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat you are doing is looking for nonexistent patterns like we see patterns of stars in the sky, 'Look, there is the Big Dipper'. Well look over there, you can see Ursa the bear!
yes, but so what, the sign is composite and its just like an atheistic sapling to attempt to take them out of context and view them in isolation, the thing we need to appreciate is that these composite parts would exist together to form a whole, therefore we have a global conflict and food shortages, and earthquakes etc etc its not and/or but and/and
19 Apr 16
Originally posted by sonhouseach yer bum! since when was the first world war non-existent, since when are earthquakes non-existent.
What you are doing is looking for nonexistent patterns like we see patterns of stars in the sky, 'Look, there is the Big Dipper'. Well look over there, you can see Ursa the bear!
19 Apr 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat's a strange statement for him to make as the US Geological Survey website (admittedly on a page that is deprecated, but was last updated in 2012) says:
these point have been covered on numerous occasions it s tedious to have to do so again and again so either you are talking pants or Tom Parsons a research geophysicist with the U.S Geological survey doesn't know what he's talking about.
"We have recently experienced a period that has had one of the highest rates of great earthquakes ever recorded ...[text shortened]... was a betting man, which I am not, I would wager that you are talking frilly pantaloons, AGAIN!
The USGS estimates that several million earthquakes occur in the world each year. Many go undetected because they hit remote areas or have very small magnitudes. The NEIC now locates about 50 earthquakes each day, or about 20,000 a year.
As more and more seismographs are installed in the world, more earthquakes can be and have been located. However, the number of large earthquakes (magnitude 6.0 and greater) has stayed relatively constant.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php
19 Apr 16
Originally posted by Proper Knobof course it does, a localised conflict could hardly be described as kingdom against kingdom and nation against nation, could it, even given your proclivity for pure fantasy it would be a tall order to imagine it as such. No no, we must be realistic and note that the intent of the author was to make reference to a global conflict or war.
But the scriptural verse doesn't use the word 'global' as you keep saying over and over again does it?
19 Apr 16
Originally posted by DeepThought[/b]Perhaps there is conflicting opinion, who can say?
That's a strange statement for him to make as the US Geological Survey website (admittedly on a page that is deprecated, but was last updated in 2012) says:
The USGS estimates that several million earthquakes occur in the world each year. Many go undetected because they hit remote areas or have very small magnitudes. The NEIC now locates about ...[text shortened]... vely constant.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php
19 Apr 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThere is no mention of the word 'global' in the piece of scripture. What you described is your organisations interpretation of the text.
of course it does, a localised conflict could hardly be described as kingdom against kingdom and nation against nation, could it, even given your proclivity for pure fantasy it would be a tall order to imagine it as such. No no, we must be realistic and note that the intent of the author was to make reference to a global conflict or war.
19 Apr 16
Originally posted by Proper Knobfeel free to offer an alternative interpretation. Personally I don't think that anyone is able to read the text in any other way other than with reference to a global war.
There is no mention of the word 'global' in the piece of scripture. What you described is your organisations interpretation of the text.
Originally posted by divegeesterWhat weak and wimpy namby pambyism is this, Jesus is described in scripture as a warrior, a vengeful warrior and you paint him like hes Trixie the pixie come to take them on a Sunday school picnic to Noddy land, get a grip!
Because that is the lens that some people see the world through, especially the Jehovah's Witneses. Other people, including many Christians I know, view the the world through a different lens. One of hope, redemption and mercy.
19 Apr 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt could apply to any number of conflicts throughout the ages. The Ottoman wars of the middle ages for example.
feel free to offer an alternative interpretation. Personally I don't think that anyone is able to read the text in any other way other than with reference to a global war.