Interestingly I was having a similar conversation with someone about this yesterday. As a Christian myself I accept scripture which says something along the lines of ~specific stuff getting demonstrably worse as the time available for mankind to repent shortens~ Individual mand-made claims that the "end is nigh" really do need to be demonstrable through data to have any credence in conversation or debate.
Furthermore, and just as a thought experiment, hands up anyone here who, if it was proven that earthquakes were on the increase would rush out to join the JWs?
>long pause of several millennia<
Collective answer = No one...
In fact, no atheist, unbeliever or whoever in this forum, or anywhere else, would start believing in God because bad things happen.
The problem you have Robbie, all you JW prophets of doom, and indeed all you Christian prophets of doom have, is that the attraction and call to Jesus Christ as saviour and redeemer has absolutely nothing to do with bad things happening.
Edit: furthermore, the prophecies in revelation and other such places in the Bible are there for believers, they are there as reassurance when things do get bad that God is in it. They are not there to be used as whipping stick to drive the lost into a cult!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThis is a list Robbie.
really, which of the following data is in your words, 'unreliable',
1976 11 24 - Turkey-Iran border region - M 7.3 Fatalities 5,000
1976 08 16 - Mindanao, Philippines - M 7.9 Fatalities 8,000
1976 07 27 - Tangshan, China - M 7.5 Fatalities 255,000
1976 06 25 - Papua, Indonesia - M 7.1 Fatalities 5,000
1976 02 04 - Guatemala - M 7.5 Fatali ...[text shortened]... scale,
it has been assumed this earthquake was over M 7.0, although this might not be the case
Shall I make you a list of good things which have happened in the last 24 hours?
Originally posted by divegeesterI see so you cannot say and once again insist on pandering your opinion as if it has some efficacy beyond the hot air which inflates it. Once again you seem to have little to contribute except the usual dull 'contentious for contentiousness sake', style arguments which has marred your entire posting history. How so thoroughly predictable and so thoroughly banal.
This is a list Robbie.
Shall I make you a list of good things which have happened in the last 24 hours?
18 Apr 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI have laid out my case against your use of fear to drive the lost into your cult in the post at the top of the page.
I see so you cannot say and once again insist on pandering your opinion as if it has some efficacy beyond the hot air which inflates it. Once again you seem to have little to contribute except the usual dull contentious for contentiousness sake style arguments which has marred your entire posting history. How so thoroughly predictable and so thoroughly banal.
Originally posted by divegeestermore irrelevant nothingness. We are well aware of your douchbaggery and how you attempt to turn any issue against those people you find objectionable, but it wont happen here for this thread is about Jesus prophecy and the scientific data which has been used to establish it, its no place for your prejudices, hatred and rampant douchebaggery, move along, you clearly have nothing worth contributing.
I have laid out my case against your use of fear to drive the lost into your cult in the post at the top of the page.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAnd "what is known" is that geology does not work in decades or centuries.
because my dear Wolfgang we must go by what is known ie recorded data rather than what is not known. Surely this is the empirical scientific method?
You cannot seriously believe that one decade or one century will have similar
seismic activity to another. It is (for all intents) random (the frequency) and
although we can say some events are "overdue" it doesn't mean they
are going to happen tomorrow or even in 100 years.
Originally posted by wolfgang59Again no one has made this claim, either there has been an increase in the magnitude and frequency of measurable seismic activity or there has not and all we can know with any certainty is what has been measured by the scientific method.
And "what is known" is that geology does not work in decades or centuries.
You cannot seriously believe that one decade or one century will have similar
seismic activity to another. It is (for all intents) random (the frequency) and
although we can say some events are "overdue" it doesn't mean they
are going to happen tomorrow or even in 100 years.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe bit where you claim there is a significant increase.
really, which of the following data is in your words, 'unreliable',
You don't give a source, but I am guessing you got that from Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_20th-century_earthquakes
Wikipedia includes a kind of chart and there is no indication of an increase in the chart.
Originally posted by twhiteheadAll these facts you keep presenting are an intolerable distraction from the selected handful of facts with uncertain and who-cares-what provenance that can be seen in a certain light at a particular time of day weather permitting if you squint one eye to suggest that maybe ...
The bit where you claim there is a significant increase.
You don't give a source, but I am guessing you got that from Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_20th-century_earthquakes
Wikipedia includes a kind of chart and there is no indication of an increase in the chart.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieObviously what I am saying is that even if an increase can be shown it is irrelevant.
Again no one has made this claim, either there has been an increase in the magnitude and frequency of measurable seismic activity or there has not and all we can know with any certainty is what has been measured by the scientific method.
18 Apr 16
Originally posted by googlefudgeI find this amusing, because this reminds me of the far-right's view that global warming is "nonsense".
There is probably an increase in Earthquakes hitting heavily populated areas over the last century,
as the number of heavily populated areas increases this is pretty inevitable.
But as you say, nobody in the relevant field is concerned about any great increase in earthquake
frequency... mainly because there isn't one.
I still find it hard to ...[text shortened]... in almost every metric you care to name in making life better for the majority
of human kind.
18 Apr 16
Originally posted by divegeesterNow this, I can actually agree with.
Interestingly I was having a similar conversation with someone about this yesterday. As a Christian myself I accept scripture which says something along the lines of ~specific stuff getting demonstrably worse as the time available for mankind to repent shortens~ Individual mand-made claims that the "end is nigh" really do need to be demonstrable through ...[text shortened]... hat God is in it. They are not there to be used as whipping stick to drive the lost into a cult!