Originally posted by Rajk999wow, fifth time asking and you cannot even get the question correct. You were not asked if Jesus used other names what you were actually asked was whether making Gods name manifest was important to Jesus, clearly you cannot being yourself to say it, oh well.
Making the name God of Israel, the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob, was important to Jesus. Any other name for God is irrelevant because Jesus never used any other name.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieOh well to you too
wow, fifth time asking and you cannot even get the question correct. You were not asked if Jesus used other names what you were actually asked was whether making Gods name manifest was important to Jesus, clearly you cannot being yourself to say it, oh well.
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Originally posted by Rajk999The divine name as represented by the four consonants JHVH or YHWH was known to Jesus and he most certainly would have been familiar with that name. A great pity the Jews were superstitious and attached all kinds of prohibitions to using that name. Jesus by contrast made the name manifest and taught his followers to pray for its sanctification.
Not recorded and yet you know the unrecorded stuff Jesus said .. amazing.
And Jesus will condemn people for not knowing unrecorded stuff he said .. 😀
Originally posted by robbie carrobieRobbie, I have a thought here for a couple of our friends. You know we post scriptures that to us are crystal clear in there meanings. And we know the bible says that some would read and not understand, so we know that is a fact. Then we tend to get frustrated with them and even come back with comments we shouldn't lower ourselves into making like I just did. Yes it's so frustrating especially when they insist on answers we have clearly given over and over. So they read our comments but when they see the scriptures we quote to explain our comments, what do they see when reading that scripture? Is it just a few words but not the whole sentence? I just don't get it but something looks different when they read it.
God is not a name, its a description and a title so we shall ask you once again was making Gods name known important to Jesus. Fourth time asking.
For instance when any of the 8 million JW's read a scripture, we all see it just as the scriptures say we should and completely agree on it. But that same scripture quoted here is seen by a half dozen or so people, each of them have their own opinion which is fine but not one of them agrees with even one other among themselves.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieFrom the Holy Book of WatchTower-
The divine name as represented by the four consonants JHVH or YHWH was known to Jesus and he most certainly would have been familiar with that name. A great pity the Jews were superstitious and attached all kinds of prohibitions to using that name.
Blessed are those who used the name JHVH or YHWH, for theirs is the Kingdom of heaven.
Originally posted by galveston75Its a spiritual thing Gman and pretty amazing. If I came to Texas and went to Kingdom Hall I would share exactly the same beliefs with the family sitting next to me because we have been taught by one channel and there is a unity of belief and practice among us, same if i went to the Punjab, or anywhere else for that matter, Japan or Russia. Why others cannot see the same perspective I cannot say. Even if they saw it and then rejected it that would be fine but not to acknowledge it is pretty strange.
Robbie, I have a thought here for a couple of our friends. You know we post scriptures that to us are crystal clear in there meanings. And we know the bible says that some would read and not understand, so we know that is a fact. Then we tend to get frustrated with them and even come back with comments we shouldn't lower ourselves into making like I just ...[text shortened]... their own opinion which is fine but not one of them agrees with even one other among themselves.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOh yes I agree it is spiritual for sure. But still what do they actually see when reading a certain scripture that is so clear to understand? Are there letters missing from words or just some blockage that is not clear for them to see unless Jehovah wants them to, and because they want to? That's the main point is they "have to want it" in order for it to become clear even if it's something they may not agree with because of just not understanding. Jehovah knows that and see's the heart. If they really want it, they will see it.
Its a spiritual thing Gman and pretty amazing. If I came to Texas and went to Kingdom Hall I would share exactly the same beliefs with the family sitting next to me because we have been taught by one channel and there is a unity of belief and practice among us, same if i went to the Punjab, or anywhere else for that matter, Japan or Russia. Why oth ...[text shortened]... they saw it and then rejected it that would be fine but not to acknowledge it is pretty strange.
Originally posted by FMFSure if they are done with respect and if one is willing to respect mine. It goes both ways. Also if I give an answer and I tell you it's the best or only way I know how to answer and you accept it even if you don't understand it, then yes I'll listen to others opinions.
Well then. Do you think there is something good about hearing many opinions?
A secret to teaching, if that is your goal, is to be a good listener.
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Originally posted by galveston75So what is your opinion [that you want me to listen to and respect] about Ecclesiastes 12:12 ?
Sure if they are done with respect and if one is willing to respect mine. It goes both ways. Also if I give an answer and I tell you it's the best or only way I know how to answer and you accept it even if you don't understand it, then yes I'll listen to others opinions.
A secret to teaching, if that is your goal, is to be a good listener.
Originally posted by FMFI did already comment on this which is my opinion..... "Just that David said he had learned all he could but was still not satisfied. No doubt he had also heard many opinions and they still did not give him the answers he looked for."
So what is your opinion [that you want me to listen to and respect] about Ecclesiastes 12:12 ?