I am a huge fan of the philosopher Socrates. Every time I read his writings, it seems as though he is referencing the Bible, especially the NT which was written hundreds of years after his death.
Here are some examples.
"One who is injured ought not to return the injury, for on no account can it be right to do an injustice; and it is not right to return an injury, or to do an evil to any man, however much we have suffered from him"
-Socrates
Now compare this to Jesus telling us that we should love our enemies as ourselves.
Socrates was a man who pursued truth at any cost. In fact, it eventually cost him his life.
Interestingly, he had this to say.
"The true champion of justice, if he intends to survive even for a short time, must necessarily confine himself to private life and leave politics alone"
The truth is, we all fall short of the truth, which is why the truth is so offensive. What is intriguing is that Socrates does not seem to run away from his short comings.
Here is what he had to say about it.
"Think not those faithful who praise all thy words and actions; but those who kindly reprove thy faults. A life without criticism is not worth living"
Originally posted by whodeySocrates wrote nothing. We depend on his students, Plato and Xenophon, for the quotations.
I am a huge fan of the philosopher Socrates. Every time I read his writings, it seems as though he is referencing the Bible, especially the NT which was written hundreds of years after his death.
Here are some examples.
"One who is injured ought not to return the injury, for on no account can it be right to do an injustice; and it is not right to retur ...[text shortened]... actions; but those who kindly reprove thy faults. A life without criticism is not worth living"
Originally posted by whodeyI wonder if Socrates didn't have a copy of the O.T. Scriptures.
I am a huge fan of the philosopher Socrates. Every time I read his writings, it seems as though he is referencing the Bible, especially the NT which was written hundreds of years after his death.
Here are some examples.
"One who is injured ought not to return the injury, for on no account can it be right to do an injustice; and it is not right to retur ...[text shortened]... actions; but those who kindly reprove thy faults. A life without criticism is not worth living"
Originally posted by whodeyPerhaps the writers of the New Testament were familiar with the quotations attributed to Socrates.
I am a huge fan of the philosopher Socrates. Every time I read his writings, it seems as though he is referencing the Bible, especially the NT which was written hundreds of years after his death.
Originally posted by HandyAndyWhat is the point of saying that someone else said those things?
What was the point, o wise one?
The point here is striving to find truth.
Socrates would probably be the first to admit that much of his philosophy came from wisdom hear elsewhere.
"Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for."
- Socrates
Another good quote is this,
"I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing"
Originally posted by whodeyDo you think the people setting up the cult of personality surrounding Jesus in the decades and centuries after his death may have simply kind of half-inched Socrates' ideas and passed them off as their own?
Every time I read his writings, it seems as though he is referencing the Bible, especially the NT which was written hundreds of years after his death.
Originally posted by whodeyGood for what? A fridge magnet or a bumper sticker perhaps?
Another good quote is this,
"I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing"
It's a bit long I think.
Just "I know nothing" then?
Whether it's the short version or the long version, I don't think it's profound at all really.
Why do you think it is?
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Originally posted by whodeyThat's interesting. At the time Socrates was probably considered the biggest hippie around by his society.
I am a huge fan of the philosopher Socrates. Every time I read his writings, it seems as though he is referencing the Bible, especially the NT which was written hundreds of years after his death.
Here are some examples.
"One who is injured ought not to return the injury, for on no account can it be right to do an injustice; and it is not right to retur ...[text shortened]... actions; but those who kindly reprove thy faults. A life without criticism is not worth living"
Originally posted by FMFWhat I find the most interesting is that people like yourself have no problem believing what Joe Shmoe said in history but when it comes to men like Socrates and Jesus Christ all of a sudden they become mythical due to the truth they espoused.
Do you think the people setting up the cult of personality surrounding Jesus in the decades and centuries after his death may have simply kind of half-inched Socrates' ideas and passed them off as their own?
Originally posted by FMFI have found that the more you learn the more you realize what you don't know.
Good for what? A fridge magnet or a bumper sticker perhaps?
It's a bit long I think.
Just "I know nothing" then?
Whether it's the short version or the long version, I don't think it's profound at all really.
Why do you think it is?
Perhaps this is a better way of saying it.