The Ark?

@galveston75 said
OK, here we go. The proof is in the Bible itself. God created Adam and Eve and put them in the garden. He told them to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. What did the earth look like then, before the flood happened?
God created them to live forever. But would God have created the type earth that we have today? Would he have left the earth in an unfinished sta ...[text shortened]... or mountains tens of thousands of feet up in the sky.

I'll post some links that discuses this...

I appreciate the time you have taken to write out this lengthy post, but this is not evidence in any shape or form. Using the Bible to prove the Bible is nothing more than a circular argument, that's logical fallacy 101. I'm afraid you're making zero sense.

@caissad4 said
I see we have reached the "goddidit defence" once again.
If that is all you got, then you have nothing.

So what is your problem with God?

@galveston75 said
So what is your problem with God?

I have no problem with god, Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Harry Potter, Bilbo Baggins, Sasquatch, Mr. Potato Head, or any other invented characters.

@proper-knob said
I appreciate the time you have taken to write out this lengthy post, but this is not evidence in any shape or form. Using the Bible to prove the Bible is nothing more than a circular argument, that's logical fallacy 101. I'm afraid you're making zero sense.

Thanks and no problem. But you see that the Bible has never been proved wrong. Many have said no it's just a book and nothing more. Many things in it are not true and are just stories. But every ten/20 years or so some discovery is made, and guess what? They find something that the bible said it was there, or that person really did live or whatever. And so far everything the Bible says is true. Sure there is still a list of things but in time maybe everyone of those issues will finally be found.

https://www.plaintruth.com/the_plain_truth/2012/07/does-science-prove-noahs-flood.html

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/evidence-for-a-flood-102813115/

https://www.answers.com/Q/Is_the_Biblical_flood_of_Noah%27s_day_historical

https://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/there-evidence-flood-was-global

YouTube

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https://www.wnd.com/2012/06/does-science-prove-noahs-flood/

https://www.inquisitr.com/432343/new-evidence-suggests-noahs-biblical-flood-actually-happened/

http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/231529-polystrate-fossils-proof-of-noahs-flood/

http://www.ancientlosttreasures.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14227&p=108904

https://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/noahs-biblical-flood-evidence-suggests-happened-18041950

@galveston75 said
Thanks and no problem. But you see that the Bible has never been proved wrong. Many have said no it's just a book and nothing more. Many things in it are not true and are just stories. But every ten/20 years or so some discovery is made, and guess what? They find something that the bible said it was there, or that person really did live or whatever. And so far everything ...[text shortened]... 108904

https://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/noahs-biblical-flood-evidence-suggests-happened-18041950

To claim the Bible has never been 'proved wrong' is delusional. Take the nativity and the story of the 'Slaughter of the Innocents'. King Herod died between 1-4BC, the Census of Quirinius took place in 6AD. The timeline is out by up to 9 years.

The Census of Quirinius was a census of Judea taken by Publius Sulpicius Quirinius, Roman governor of Syria, upon the imposition of direct Roman rule in 6 CE. The Gospel of Luke uses it as the narrative means to establish the birth of Jesus (Luke 2:1–5), but places it within the reign of Herod the Great, who died 9 years earlier. No satisfactory explanation of the contradiction seems possible on the basis of present knowledge, and most scholars think that the author of the gospel made a mistake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius

@galveston75 said
Thanks and no problem. But you see that the Bible has never been proved wrong. Many have said no it's just a book and nothing more. Many things in it are not true and are just stories. But every ten/20 years or so some discovery is made, and guess what? They find something that the bible said it was there, or that person really did live or whatever. And so far everything ...[text shortened]... 108904

https://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/noahs-biblical-flood-evidence-suggests-happened-18041950

As for these links, i checked the first 4 out.

1. This article is arguing for a young earth. You don't believe in a young earth, so i'm not sure what you think this proves.

2. This article makes reference to the established scientific flood of the Black Sea. This is not in doubt, but this event wasn't a 'global flood'. Again, i'm not sure what you think this proves.

3. This article is full of outright blatant lies about the genetic evidence for flood narrative. This is simply a shameful piece of writing.

4. Pure speculation with nothing to corroborate it. Anyone can write and 'opinion piece, where's the evidence to back it up?

@proper-knob said
As for these links, i checked the first 4 out.

1. This article is arguing for a young earth. You don't believe in a young earth, so i'm not sure what you think this proves.

2. This article makes reference to the established scientific flood of the Black Sea. This is not in doubt, but this event wasn't a 'global flood'. Again, i'm not sure what you think this proves ...[text shortened]... nothing to corroborate it. Anyone can write and 'opinion piece, where's the evidence to back it up?

The reason for all the links was to establish that they all do have the same conclusion even with the fact that all of their explanations are different which is to be expected and that the evidence is mounting up that there was a flood in the past and it was about the time the Bible says it happened. When you can, check out the other ones too.

http://biblicalgeology.net/blog/geologists-see-effects-of-noahs-flood-in-africa

YouTube

http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/flood.html


h. Mount Ararat submerged.

"On Mount Ararat, a volcanic mountain complex, pillow lava is found at the 14,000 foot level.29 Pillow lava has been extruded under water and is recognized by its high glass content caused by very rapid cooling. All of the igneous rocks examined on Ararat by geologist Clifford Burdick were highly glassy. Ararat apparently was submerged in water to above the present 14,000 foot level. It probably was built up under the water during the flood. The entire world must have been inundated at the same time."
This is from the last link. If anyone has seen videos of lava running out from the Hawaiian volcanoes into the Pacific and as it submerges into the cool water it forms large round bubbles or pillows. This is also been found on top of Mt Ararat...
Hum...must have been water up there at one time.

@galveston75 said
The reason for all the links was to establish that they all do have the same conclusion even with the fact that all of their explanations are different which is to be expected and that the evidence is mounting up that there was a flood in the past and it was about the time the Bible says it happened. When you can, check out the other ones too.

http://biblicalgeology.ne ...[text shortened]... s. This is also been found on top of Mt Ararat...
Hum...must have been water up there at one time.

The links you posted do not have the same conclusion. Trying to equate the flooding of the Black Sea with a 'global' flood is disingenuous. There is zero evidence 'mounting up' there was a global flood in the past. You're making it up.

@proper-knob said
The links you posted do not have the same conclusion. Trying to equate the flooding of the Black Sea with a 'global' flood is disingenuous. There is zero evidence 'mounting up' there was a global flood in the past. You're making it up.

Read the last link in detail.......

@galveston75 said
Read the last link in detail.......

Two words for you - Plate Tectonics.

I suggest you go read up on the subject.

@galveston75 said
All of the igneous rocks examined on Ararat by geologist Clifford Burdick were highly glassy. Ararat apparently was submerged in water to above the present 14,000 foot level. It probably was built up under the water during the flood. The entire world must have been inundated at the same time."

I thought to myself, how can this Clifford Burdick you mention be "a geologist" if he doesn't know about plate tectonics. So I looked him up. Have you looked him up? Where did he get his "PhD" in "geology" from?