The depravity of man

Originally posted by @apathist
We all have that power.

Really so you decided where and when you wanted to be born and to whom? Good to know...

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Which genocide are you referring to? The flood? God decides when we live and when we die. Do you think it is always evil for the creator of life to decide when to end it? If so, according to which objective moral law? Oh right there is no objective moral law and therefore we can all do as we please. Except for God?

Again - you are asked one question and in reply do not answer but throw back FIVE questions.
LEARN HOW TO DEBATE. For gods sake!

Originally posted by @dj2becker
As a parent I am the law maker in my home.

Your house must be so much fun! 🙄
Poor kids.

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
Your house must be so much fun! 🙄
Poor kids.

I'm sure your kids can do exactly as they please. How is that working for you?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I'm sure your kids can do exactly as they please. How is that working for you?

Great thanks.
But more importantly it is working for them.

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
Great thanks.
But more importantly it is working for them.

So just to be clear you have no rules in your home?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
So just to be clear you have no rules in your home?

Not really.
My children are taught to respect others.
That seems to be doing just fine.
Sometimes we have to debate what that means.
But that's fine.

Tell me about your family rules Law Giver.

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
Not really.
My children are taught to respect others.
That seems to be doing just fine.
Sometimes we have to debate what that means.
But that's fine.

Tell me about your family rules Law Giver.

This respect you teach your children to have for other people is obligatory? 😲

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If morality is merely subjective everyones definition is correct regardless of whether or not they disagree, which means even Hitler and Nazi Germany were correct in their own right. Which is obviously hogwash.

I doesn't matter how many times you trot out this tired old bull5hit, it will never be true. Morality is a consensus, as has been pointed out to you ad nauseum.

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
I doesn't matter how many times you trot out this tired old bull5hit, it will never be true. Morality is a consensus, as has been pointed out to you ad nauseum.

It morality really is a consensus, does that mean if people agree that torturing a baby for fun is ok then it will no longer be wrong to do so?

I think we can both agree that it is always wrong regardless of what people may decide.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Really so you decided where and when you wanted to be born and to whom? Good to know...

No. How did you get that?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
It morality really is a consensus, does that mean if people agree that torturing a baby for fun is ok then it will no longer be wrong to do so?

I think we can both agree that it is always wrong regardless of what people may decide.

The term 'torturing' is loaded, as is the phrase 'for fun'. By it's definition 'torture' cannot be a positive experience for the subject or victim. By it's definition, the phrase 'for fun' implies a singular focus on one's own pleasure. It is fatuous and illogical to suggest that a consensus might be reached to favour this action as being morally 'right'. You might as well propose that "if people agree that something they already agree is morally wrong is also morally right then does it become morally right?".

The pleasure you take from argument and the pride you have in your faith is blinding you the reality of the human experience.

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
The term 'torturing' is loaded, as is the phrase 'for fun'. By it's definition 'torture' cannot be a positive experience for the subject or victim. By it's definition, the phrase 'for fun' implies a singular focus on one's own pleasure. It is fatuous and illogical to suggest that a consensus might be reached to favour this action as being morally 'r ...[text shortened]... gument and the pride you have in your faith is blinding you the reality of the human experience.

If the Nazi's agreed that their actions were right does that automatically make them right?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If the Nazi's agreed that their actions were right does that automatically make them right?

Off you go again. Who are these 'Nazi's' of whom you speak? Do you mean the entire membership of the Nazi party? And to what specific 'actions' do you refer?

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
The term 'torturing' is loaded, as is the phrase 'for fun'. By it's definition 'torture' cannot be a positive experience for the subject or victim. By it's definition, the phrase 'for fun' implies a singular focus on one's own pleasure. It is fatuous and illogical to suggest that a consensus might be reached to favour this action as being morally 'r ...[text shortened]... gument and the pride you have in your faith is blinding you the reality of the human experience.

People disagree on morals all the time, if there is no objective moral truth, how do you decide which morals are correct when people contradict each other? Are the majority always right?