19 Jul 17
Originally posted by @kellyjay .. to EladarHe has put it to you as follows: "If the instruction in Leviticus was from God, it was also from Jesus."
What you gave me was from the OT, Jesus wasn't born in the OT, but the NT so please
give up that quote. You could have said, God in the OT said this, everyone would have
agreed with you, but you didn't say that.
19 Jul 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayIn the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.
The Word of God has been here forever, in the OT yes, but Jesus didn't show up until the
NT the Word of God made flesh...Jesus wasn't flesh in the OT, so you ready to admit you
do not have a Jesus quote yet?
19 Jul 17
Originally posted by @eladarDo you believe that self-identifying Christians - who believe it is wrong for society to execute rebellious children and homosexuals - are "children of Satan"?
Let's make sure we stay honest here. Sorry if the Gospel that is in your heart tells you that Jesus was not the God of the OT.
Originally posted by @suzianneNot at all. Actually, I am wondering why KellyJay (or you for that matter) isn't able to deal with the anomalous theory that Eladar is putting forward; saying "The Word of God has been here forever..." is surely playing into Eladar's hands.
Yet more grasping at straws.
19 Jul 17
FMF: But the question is: are you believer in the so called Old and New Covenants and the difference between them?So you believe Jesus changed his mind about what constituted the morally sound punishment for "rebellious children"?
Originally posted by @eladar
Sure there is a difference. Sheesh you'd think a former christian would know this already.
19 Jul 17
Originally posted by @fmfI'd say Jesus teaches us that it is the moral thing to do under certain circumstances. What circumstance? When it is a society that Hod requires to survive and a society that God is to blesd.
Does this mean you believe Jesus still thinks execution constitutes the morally sound punishment for "rebellious children"?
19 Jul 17
Originally posted by @eladarBut according to what you have said, Jesus has clearly changed his mind about what the appropriate punishment is for homosexuality and being a rebellious child.
I'd say Jesus teaches us that it is the moral thing to do under certain circumstances. What circumstance? When it is a society that Hod requires to survive and a society that God is to blesd.