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Originally posted by @kellyjay
It is if you have God's gift of grace that matters not agreeing with me.
Do you have "God's gift of grace"? Can non-believers observe you here and say to themselves, there goes someone who has "God's gift of grace"?

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Originally posted by @eladar
You look down on Christians.
I look down on christianity.

Christians are people. I don't care what people believe, I care about how they act.

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Originally posted by @apathist
I look down on christianity.

Christians are people. I don't care what people believe, I care about how they act.
If that were so, then you would comment on how people act, not their beliefs.

You are a liar.

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Originally posted by @eladar
If that were so, then you would comment on how people act, not their beliefs.

You are a liar.
Sharing views is an act. You enter the game. It's not my fault that christianity in its many forms does not make sense. Well, possibly except christian universalism. But they are hated by all the other christian sects.

I've heard christians of some sects hate christians of other sects far more than they hate atheists. What do you say, eladar?

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Originally posted by @apathist
Sharing views is an act. You enter the game. It's not [b]my fault that christianity in its many forms does not make sense. Well, possibly except christian universalism. But they are hated by all the other christian sects.

I've heard christians of some sects hate christians of other sects far more than they hate atheists. What do you say, eladar?[/b]
I say it is because those with hate in their hearts don't have God in them instead.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Depends on the beliefs.
Okay. So what standards should I use to judge the beliefs of others?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
I say it is because those with hate in their hearts don't have God in them instead.
That's why I like you.

Do you think, and this is serious, that the two concepts of 'hate in their hearts' or 'have God in them' are in any way related?

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Originally posted by @apathist
Okay. So what standards should I use to judge the beliefs of others?
Love

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Depends on the beliefs.
And therefore...

Don't hide, Kelly. What is there to be afraid of. Shiit, you're talking with an atheist pagan. Easy target. But I have reasons, and I'm willing to explore them.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Love
But in the light of this thread, how is it love to disown your own loved ones based on faith belief? You eat fish on friday or what the fudge ever so I disown you and shun you and hate you forever! Because I love you so much.

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Originally posted by @apathist
That's why I like you.

Do you think, and this is serious, that the two concepts of 'hate in their hearts' or 'have God in them' are in any way related?
I try not to divide people into the groups we like to divide them into. I do not accept
everyone who claims to be a Christian is, because for me if God isn't in someone, they
are just another person with a human label on them.

Our labels divide us, even within Christian groups it is sad that we are divide ourselves
due to human likes and dislikes, and avoid coming together in Christ. He is the best part
of Christianity, the very best part of life, and we treat Him as an after thought at times.

If we allow hate in our hearts, we are walking in the flesh not the Spirit of God, since Jesus
died for all, to pick any reason to dislike another is small potatoes compared to who
units us.

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Originally posted by @suzianne
Of course you mean that salvation for all men is *possible* through Jesus, but not automatic, like chaney says, right? The gift still has to be accepted.
Salvation is for ALL.

If not, then the crucifixion was meaningless, and Jesus is playing games, with "strings attached" to His sacrifice.

He is not that petty.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
I try not to divide people into the groups we like to divide them into. I do not accept
everyone who claims to be a Christian is, because for me if God isn't in someone, they
are just another person with a human label on them.

Our labels divide us, even within Christian groups it is sad that we are divide ourselves
due to human likes and dislikes, and a ...[text shortened]... us
died for all, to pick any reason to dislike another is small potatoes compared to who
units us.
You say our labels divide us (you are right), even as you use labels to divide us.

Why aren't you Hindu? Shiva built this world long before Abraham was born.
Why aren't you Muslim? Mohammad has the latest word from God.
Why aren't you Mormon? Angels gave Joseph Smith fresh print direct from God's angels just a few grandfathers ago!

Why aren't you Amish? They love the Bible too.

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Originally posted by @apathist
And therefore...

Don't hide, Kelly. What is there to be afraid of. Shiit, you're talking with an atheist pagan. Easy target. But I have reasons, and I'm willing to explore them.
What?

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Originally posted by @apathist
But in the light of this thread, how is it love to disown your own loved ones based on faith belief? You eat fish on friday or what the fudge ever so I disown you and shun you and hate you forever! Because I love you so much.
What are you talking about?

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