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24 Aug 11
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Originally posted by RJHindsNo.
Isn't the theory of evolution a perfect example of building a house on shifting
sands?
Evolution is built on rock solid facts.
Any time you want to actually talk about evolution seriously with an open mind,
(ie be prepared to change your mind if i present arguments and evidence of high enough calibre)
Then I am ready.
Until that time I will simply say you are metaphorically shooting at a massive fortress made of mile
thick granite resting on a batholith with a peashooter.
Evolution is established scientific fact. It has been proved beyond reasonable doubt.
The fact that the education system in your country is so poor as to enable anyone
to not understand this is unfortunate, but does not alter the fact that you are wrong.
Explaining why requires time, time that I am not prepared to give unless you are prepared to
admit the possibility you are wrong and engage with an open mind.
Till then, Evolution is a fact, get over it.
EDIT: also you missed the point of my post.
I was simply saying if you don't use words as they are defined in the dictionary, and thus
as everyone else understands them, then discussion is meaningless.
Words have a meaning, and that meaning can be looked up.
I am sure for example that even you can agree that evolution is not the same as atheism.
25 Aug 11
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Originally posted by googlefudgeI don't see any rocks under evolution. It all appears as sand to me.
No.
Evolution is built on rock solid facts.
Any time you want to actually talk about evolution seriously with an open mind,
(ie be prepared to change your mind if i present arguments and evidence of high enough calibre)
Then I am ready.
Until that time I will simply say you are metaphorically shooting at a massive fortress made of mile
thick g d up.
I am sure for example that even you can agree that evolution is not the same as atheism.
If it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, then cite the
court case so I can confirm it.
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25 Aug 11
Originally posted by RJHinds
Atheist Frank Zindler said,
‘The most devastating thing though that biology did to Christianity was the discovery of biological evolution. Now that we know that Adam and Eve never were real people the central myth of Christianity is destroyed. If there never was an Adam and Eve there never was an original sin. If there never was an original sin there is ...[text shortened]... e general population to accept evolution as ‘fact’, it will be the death of (real) Christianity.
25 Aug 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobAnd you may too believe what you like.
You can believe as you choose, but you are wrong.
Evolution as the origin of our species not an absolute proven fact. There is various evidences and various ways of interpreting that evidence, but no one has conclusively proven that human evolved from apes.
25 Aug 11
Originally posted by divegeesterEvolution as the origin of our species not an absolute proven fact.
And you may too believe what you like.
Evolution as the origin of our species not an absolute proven fact. There is various evidences and various ways of interpreting that evidence, but no one has conclusively proven that human evolved from apes.
It's a proven fact as any other fact in evolution. We evolved.
25 Aug 11
Originally posted by divegeesterHowever one fact is indisputable; that evolution remains as scientific 'theory', not scientific 'fact'.
Perhaps we did.
However one fact is indisputable; that evolution remains as scientific 'theory', not scientific 'fact'.
Evolution is a scientific fact. Life on this planet evolved. It's as indisputable a scientific theory as that of the sun going round the earth.
25 Aug 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobCould you show me where it is proved a fact; as in a demonstrable fact. And not a series of evidenced (historical evidences; factual individually) which lead to a theoretical conclusion.
[b]However one fact is indisputable; that evolution remains as scientific 'theory', not scientific 'fact'.
Evolution is a scientific fact. Life on this planet evolved. It's as indisputable a scientific theory as that of the sun going round the earth.[/b]
25 Aug 11
Originally posted by divegeesterLogic alone can prove that point. Human beings are apes. Our nearest relative in the animal kingdom - the chimpanzee - is also an ape. More distant but still close relatives are all also apes. Is that not proof?
And you may too believe what you like.
Evolution as the origin of our species not an absolute proven fact. There is various evidences and various ways of interpreting that evidence, but no one has conclusively proven that human evolved from apes.
25 Aug 11
If you want to split hairs, NOTHING is proven fact. However, based on observation, you can conclude what is most likely to be true.
Often evidence is so strong that you accept as fact, like if you jump from a tall building without any flight aids, you will fall and most likely die.
Evidence is very strong for evolution by natural selection. So much so, that many experiments throughout the world would not even work if this wasn't the case, and scientists in these fields accept as fact.