The self-confidence of thiests

Originally posted by knightmeister
And the entire body of theoretical physics is in agreement with itself?

yes, and that makes them much more probable to be right than you.

Originally posted by knightmeister
And the entire body of theoretical physics is in agreement with itself?

Pretty much, especially the part which deals with time (relativity / Minkowski space-time).

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Pretty much, especially the part which deals with time (relativity / Minkowski space-time).

Ok , I'm up for this. Explain how these concepts conflict with my ideas.

Originally posted by twhitehead
I have noticed that whenever a question tto do with religion is raised, there are a number of theists quite ready to give a highly comprehensive answer with extreme confidence. Theists often sound extemely sure of themselves, even when what they are saying disagrees with all the other theists who are saying something different with equal confidence.
In a ...[text shortened]... ent occasions yet sound equally confident both times.

Why are theists so sure of themeselves?

Speaking for myself, it's because I know my maker.

There is one thing all theists can agree on. There is a creator. We disagree when, like all others, there is miscommunication of the truth.

Originally posted by josephw
Speaking for myself, it's because I know my maker.

There is one thing all theists can agree on. There is a creator. We disagree when, like all others, there is miscommunication of the truth.

Which one of you has the truth? I'd very much like to know, so as to avoid being lied to in the future.

Originally posted by Starrman
Which one of you has the truth? I'd very much like to know, so as to avoid being lied to in the future.

there is no absolute truth. also there is no spoon but that is another matter

Originally posted by Starrman
Which one of you has the truth? I'd very much like to know, so as to avoid being lied to in the future.

God has all the truth. God doesn't lie. Why should He?

But seriously. If there is a God, and the Bible is His word, then I'm your go to man. There may be some arrogance in that, but what else can I say? You're undoubtedly smarter than me. Better educated and all, but do you know the truth?

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
there is no absolute truth. also there is no spoon but that is another matter

Yes there is. For example; relativism is a lie. There are no gray areas.

I gotta go now. I'll look in later.

Originally posted by josephw
But seriously. If there is a God, and the Bible is His word, then I'm your go to man.

How does that work? Do you own the only "True" decoder ring?

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
there is no absolute truth. also there is no spoon but that is another matter

Are you absolutely sure about the truth that there is no absolute truth? LOL 🙄

Originally posted by josephw
Speaking for myself, it's because I know my maker.

There is one thing all theists can agree on. There is a creator. We disagree when, like all others, there is miscommunication of the truth.

You are avoiding the question.
I have no problem with you declaring with confidence "There is a God." What I find odd is when you claim with confidence to know intimate details about God and his plans, and yet you give a different set of details from every other equally confident theist.
For you to display such confidence one would think that:
1. You have evidence for your claims
or
2. The information has been communicated to you from a reliable source.
or
3. You are making it up and know it.
If 1 or 2, then you should be able to defend your claims to other theists to the degree that they would agree with you and if they also are using 1 or 2 then one of you has bad evidence or an unreliable source.

Originally posted by twhitehead
How does that work? Do you own the only "True" decoder ring?

Me and alot of others.

Originally posted by twhitehead
You are avoiding the question.
I have no problem with you declaring with confidence "There is a God." What I find odd is when you claim with confidence to know intimate details about God and his plans, and yet you give a different set of details from every other equally confident theist.
For you to display such confidence one would think that:
1. You h ...[text shortened]... ou and if they also are using 1 or 2 then one of you has bad evidence or an unreliable source.

"If 1 or 2, then you should be able to defend your claims to other theists to the degree that they would agree with you..."

That I can!

Originally posted by twhitehead
I have noticed that whenever a question tto do with religion is raised, there are a number of theists quite ready to give a highly comprehensive answer with extreme confidence. Theists often sound extemely sure of themselves, even when what they are saying disagrees with all the other theists who are saying something different with equal confidence.
In a ...[text shortened]... ent occasions yet sound equally confident both times.

Why are theists so sure of themeselves?

The power of copy paste!

Originally posted by josephw
Me and alot of others.

But, more people don't agree with you than do. When it comes to religious, or even a-religious, ideas, we're ALL minorities.