22 Jan 15
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Originally posted by FMFAs Christians we follow the teachings of Christ.
But the genocides they committed ~ along with the tithe system ~ were in accordance with "God's law", weren't they? You have cited a flat tax tithe system as being, in your view, "God's law", have you not?
Christ reinforced the notion of tithing by stating that the widow had given more than everyone else even though she put in the least, only because she gave all she had. He reinforced the notion of observing the Sabbath with the added teaching that healing could be done on the Sabbath. He noted that the Sabbath was for man, not vice versa. He said this when they tried to accuse him of doing a work on the Sabbath by healing someone. Oddly, we have no reinforcement of genocide. Jesus teaches the exact opposite. Jesus says that they had been taught to hate their enemy, but he changes this by saying that we should love our enemy.
And there you have it. As Christians we adhere to the teachings on the Torah from Jesus, it's what makes us Christians. 😵
22 Jan 15
Originally posted by twhiteheadLet's hear about the few that do.
I know of very few Christians who follow the teachings of Christ, and I know for a fact that you are not one of them.
I never try to point to myself, I strive to point to Christ. He is the most pure and just of examples to follow, which is why so many try.
The key that I've found is that it can't be done under your own power, something I learn every day in different ways.
22 Jan 15
"Tithing was taxation in the Old Testament and applied to all citizens. Today, giving cheerfully and not of necessity [willingly of your own volition] as you've prospered [with genuine motivation, according to your means] is the biblical principle in the New Testament, Church Age. The Widow's mite [smallest, of least value] was literally all that she had. As a maturing Believer in Christ, her confidence was that her logistical needs would be met in the present as they had been in the past. She was praised, unlike some wealthy people who gave astronomically larger amounts [to impress peers] but it was merely chunk change by comparison. Gratitude motivated giving honors an individual's personal relationship with God. Any parents who deprive their children to 'give' to support some [even bona fide] ministry are behaving like thieving criminals. (gb)"
"If God didn't exist... " 05 Jul '13 21:41 Thread 154159
22 Jan 15
Originally posted by whodeySo Christ reinforced what? The notions that people are obliged to pay tax and that they may well pay different amounts, is that your point?
Christ reinforced the notion of tithing by stating that the widow had given more than everyone else even though she put in the least, only because she gave all she had.
22 Jan 15
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIs there any injunction against progressive taxation by your God figure cited in scripture, as whodey seems to be suggesting there is? Does the Bible support the idea of a flat tax that so many rich people in your country would dearly love to have?
"Tithing was taxation in the Old Testament and applied to all citizens. Today, giving cheerfully and not of necessity [willingly of your own volition] as you've prospered [with genuine motivation, according to your means] is the biblical principle in the New Testament, Church Age. The Widow's mite [smallest, of least value] was literally all that she ha ...[text shortened]... ieving criminals. (gb)"
"If God didn't exist... " 05 Jul '13 21:41 Thread 154159
23 Jan 15
Originally posted by whodeyHow's that turning the other cheek working out for you?
Let's hear about the few that do.
I never try to point to myself, I strive to point to Christ. He is the most pure and just of examples to follow, which is why so many try.
The key that I've found is that it can't be done under your own power, something I learn every day in different ways.
23 Jan 15
Originally posted by whodeyYou sound like a typical alcoholic who says he can only stay off the booze because of a "higher power". Spineless weaklings, I say.
The key that I've found is that it can't be done under your own power, something I learn every day in different ways.
Also, you sound like all those people of whom you keep repeating they expect the government to do everything for them.
Weak scared little boy, aren't you?
23 Jan 15
Originally posted by Great King RatThat's a pretty strong response for such a meek posting. You sound like what he said actually insulted you, or maybe your mother.
You sound like a typical alcoholic who says he can only stay off the booze because of a "higher power". Spineless weaklings, I say.
Also, you sound like all those people of whom you keep repeating they expect the government to do everything for them.
Weak scared little boy, aren't you?