Spirituality
09 Dec 12
Originally posted by JS357Thanks for you point of view.
It isn't so much that he shouldn't have a name, the point I am getting to is that it may be a regression from theological progress to think of the entity we call God, as having a name, or to spend time on what that name is. Names are such mundane things, that by their very nature, limit the entity named. They exist to differentiate an individual from some grou ...[text shortened]... g the fact that the deity is truly unique and does not need to be "called out by name."
One problem with not using Jehovah when speaking of God almighty is knowing exactly who a scripture is speaking of.
Many believe that Jesus and Jehovah are the same being or 1 in 3 being. But if the scriptures do use their individual names it obviously shows the seperation of the two as being two individuals.
For instance here is one example:
Since Jesus is referred to as a Lord, this scripture makes one wonder who it is speaking of.
Psalm 8:9
New Living Translation (NLT)
9 O LORD, our Lord, your majestic name fills the earth!
Now from the NWT:
(Psalm 8:9) O Jehovah our Lord, how majestic your name is in all the earth!
Do you see the differences in the capitalisation of the first "LORD" in the first scripture? That is always the reference to Jehovah when capitalised and "Lord" when it is speaking of Jesus.
So if Jehovah's name was left in all it's original places in the Bible, much confusion would be done away with.
09 Dec 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou can take the "J" out for there was no "J" until the middle ages. Yah is not an abbreviation. Yah is God's name, Spanky! 😏
first of all Gods name is the tetragrammaton, it contains the four Hebrew consonants,
YHWH, or JHVH, Yah or Jah is an abbreviated form.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!
Originally posted by RJHindsbwhahaha, the JHWH and YHWH are English equivalents of the Hebrew consonants and
You can take the "J" out for there was no "J" until the middle ages. Yah is not an abbreviation. Yah is God's name, Spanky! 😏
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!
it depends upon which language one is attempting to convey them in, not some jive
turkey talk about the middle ages. The fact that the Hebrew equivalent for Christ,
Yeshua is now pronounced, in English with a J, from the Greek, Iesous is rather telling.
One never hears people saying that this is incorrect, do we, you fail fatboy Hinds, you
fail big time!
Originally posted by galveston75I suppose if there is to be scripture that talks about the ineffable (unutterable), then words have to be put on paper (uttered). They should reflect as clearly as possible the reality they intend to describe. Study helps; more than I have done would be needed concerning the Jehovah/Lord matter.
Thanks for you point of view.
One problem with not using Jehovah when speaking of God almighty is knowing exactly who a scripture is speaking of.
Many believe that Jesus and Jehovah are the same being or 1 in 3 being. But if the scriptures do use their individual names it obviously shows the seperation of the two as being two individuals.
For i ...[text shortened]... was left in all it's original places in the Bible, much confusion would be done away with.
I continue to think that at the least, what is said has to reflect and convey, at some point, that there is an ultimate ineffability that is being treated as effable for the sake of human understanding. I'll continue to watch this thread although it shows signs of going the way of all threads.
Originally posted by FMFI do not dispute that what you say is factually correct.
sumydid is mistaken. "Allah" is a Christian word for God in many parts of the world. If you dispute this, why not just say why?
You and I went round and round on this before because you left out one crucial fact. A fact that you again failed to include so far in your conversation with him. If you dispute this, why not just say why? Are you waiting for him to make the same mistake I made? Why taunt people like that?
Originally posted by SuzianneHe seems to enjoy it?
I do not dispute that what you say is factually correct.
You and I went round and round on this before because you left out one crucial fact. A fact that you again failed to include so far in your conversation with him. If you dispute this, why not just say why? Are you waiting for him to make the same mistake I made? Why taunt people like that?
Originally posted by SuzianneI remember you and robbie trying to personalize a discussion about the word "Allah" meaning "God" for millions of Christians, if that's what you mean by something going "round and round". I "left out one crucial fact"? Sounds like a euphemism for 'Suzianne got something wrong'. 😵
I do not dispute that what you say is factually correct. You and I went round and round on this before because you left out one crucial fact.