23 Apr 08
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Originally posted by kirksey957Particularly if they were five white queens...talk about keepin' a brotha down! Damn...
I guess I was drawing a parallel between the control over these women. Obviously there are many differences. Clearly these women and children need to be rehabilitated on some level. They do not know how to function in the outside world.
Chess would be a wonderful tool to teach those children about the inter-connectedness of people and the need for " ne queen. Can you imagine, children, the chaos on the board if say there were five queens?"
23 Apr 08
Originally posted by kirksey957The outside world being that of h**s and pimps?
I guess I was drawing a parallel between the control over these women. Obviously there are many differences. Clearly these women and children need to be rehabilitated on some level. They do not know how to function in the outside world.
Chess would be a wonderful tool to teach those children about the inter-connectedness of people and the need for " ...[text shortened]... ne queen. Can you imagine, children, the chaos on the board if say there were five queens?"
I can see that both groups of women are emotionally vulnerable but
that's the only similarity I can find. Help me out here, what do you see?
23 Apr 08
Originally posted by kirksey957What's not to love about this arrangement from the male-pimp perspective?
I have been looking at this situation with some interest. On the one hand I think everyone should have freedom of religion and freedom from religion. But there's something that troubles me about this situation. When I see these women interviewed it is like they have never been given permission to speak. I have never seen people with such a lack of se ...[text shortened]... et big houses. What's not to love about this arrangement from the male-pimp perspective?
Well, for one thing, after 3 or 4 centuries, we would have millions of inbred people insisting on separating from the union.
23 Apr 08
Originally posted by kirksey957They are the most buttiful women in the world.
I have been looking at this situation with some interest. On the one hand I think everyone should have freedom of religion and freedom from religion. But there's something that troubles me about this situation. When I see these women interviewed it is like they have never been given permission to speak. I have never seen people with such a lack of se ...[text shortened]... et big houses. What's not to love about this arrangement from the male-pimp perspective?
Originally posted by kirksey957You're talking about women who have been indoctrinated into this way of life since before they can remember - before they ever had an opportunity to discover who they were as individuals.
But there's something that troubles me about this situation. When I see these women interviewed it is like they have never been given permission to speak. I have never seen people with such a lack of self-esteem. The way they wear their hair, the way they all dress the same shows a complete lack of individuality.
I was listening to an interview with Carolyn Jessop last night. She wrote the book, Escape about how she left FLDS. She spoke of how her husband used violence to keep his wives in line but mostly it was violence against the children. She described his technique of spanking a baby until it was screaming, then holding its face under a running tap and repeating the process until the baby was too exhausted to cry. She said he did it so that the children would grow up terrified of him without ever remembering why.
How can a child grow up in that environment and be anything except an automaton? It's heartbreaking.
27 Apr 08
Originally posted by MimorMy problem with the whole thing is that I haven't heard of any of the men associated with that cult being arrested yet. Some men are monsters.
You're talking about women who have been indoctrinated into this way of life since before they can remember - before they ever had an opportunity to discover who they were as individuals.
I was listening to an interview with Carolyn Jessop last night. She wrote the book, Escape about how she left FLDS. She spoke of how her husband used violence to ...[text shortened]... a child grow up in that environment and be anything except an automaton? It's heartbreaking.
29 Apr 08
Originally posted by josephwThat may change now.
My problem with the whole thing is that I haven't heard of any of the men associated with that cult being arrested yet. Some men are monsters.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/POLYGAMIST_RETREAT?SITE=KYLOU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
I don't won't to hear any more sob stories from these mothers.