There is something more

Originally posted by googlefudge
Yes but you're a moron and nobody was asking you.

much to my shame ive been spreading the video to my friends and family and pretending i have have my thumb on the comedy pulse and claiming all the kudos. much browney points gained from my wife purely because it has josie long in it.

thanks mr.fudge.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
much to my shame ive been spreading the video to my friends and family and pretending i have have my thumb on the comedy pulse and claiming all the kudos. much browney points gained from my wife purely because it has josie long in it.

thanks mr.fudge.

Yeah Josie is always good.

I went to summer school with her and she did a stand-up routine for the 'talent' show one year
that brought the house down.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Have you ever felt like there has to be something more?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=m__m-5Se5Ho

Well, looking out into the night sky, it would suggest there is a heck of a lot more.
As for seeing more of it, we'll have to find out a way to do so 🙂
.
I'd be happy to try some new space craft to outer space and wherever.

Originally posted by googlefudge
No. Not once, not ever.


There is a baptist church up the top of my road (with a bus stop in front which has caused
me to be standing there for rather long periods of time on occasions) which for a long while
had a banner advert up for it's version of Christianity and it said something very like
"doesn't there have to be something more than thi ...[text shortened]... something is true does not make it true.

I deal in reality, not wishes and fairy tales.

I think all the posters here believe they deal in "reality".

Tricky stuff..

Originally posted by RJHinds
That is a good sign. HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!

Why is it a good sign that other people are repulsed by you and your posts?
Do you believe in this " ego-transcending-thingy" , or what ? 🙂

Originally posted by karoly aczel
I think all the posters here believe they deal in "reality".

Tricky stuff..

It's the second time I have posted it but I would recommend that you watch this video by
Aaron Rah

http://freethoughtblogs.com/aronra/2012/06/20/the-role-of-faith-in-society/

Whether or not it's true that everyone 'thinks' that they deal in reality, that doesn't mean
that all positions or views are equally valid.

Reality is that which is true and real whether you believe in it or not.

And if you want to know if a view or 'fact' is true or not then you can go to reality and test
it to find out.

I do test my views and beliefs against reality to see if they match up and indeed try not to
believe anything that has not already been tested and found to stand up to scrutiny.

And I will change my mind IF shown a compelling reason (evidence) that justifies it.

I would even believe in (but not worship) gods if presented with sufficient evidence to
justify that belief.

I am not sure that such evidence is possible, or could exist without me already knowing of it,
but I could be wrong about that.

So I don't believe until evidence is shown to me that justifies that belief.

I care about truth and how my beliefs about reality actually match up to reality which is why
I care about evidence and don't believe anything on faith.


Simply saying that you care about truth and reality doesn't mean anything.

You have to walk the walk not just talk the talk and that means that you need to TEST your
beliefs against reality to see if they are right and not believe anything UNTIL it's been adequately
tested against reality and has enough supporting evidence.

Originally posted by googlefudge
It's the second time I have posted it but I would recommend that you watch this video by
Aaron Rah

http://freethoughtblogs.com/aronra/2012/06/20/the-role-of-faith-in-society/

Whether or not it's true that everyone 'thinks' that they deal in reality, that doesn't mean
that all positions or views are equally valid.

Reality is that which is tru ...[text shortened]... TIL it's been adequately
tested against reality and has enough supporting evidence.

Yeah, yeah. I get your stance.
It's all good man.
I really dont expect you to believe me or anything like that.
(I'm glad your a fast typer 🙂 )

I would love to watch that vid. I'll do it when I have audio at the library. (next couple of days)

This whole "it's still real whether you believe in it or not", cuts both ways.

And if my experiences turn out to be nothing but hallucinations, I'll also let you and who ever else know.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
I think all the posters here believe they deal in "reality".

Tricky stuff..

“What is reality, anyway? Just a collective hunch.”
Lily Tomlin

It seems (he said, hedging) that reality consists of our experiences, as shaped and filtered by our hunches about what causes them.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Yeah, yeah. I get your stance.
It's all good man.
I really dont expect you to believe me or anything like that.
(I'm glad your a fast typer 🙂 )

I would love to watch that vid. I'll do it when I have audio at the library. (next couple of days)

This whole "it's still real whether you believe in it or not", cuts both ways.

And if my experiences turn out to be nothing but hallucinations, I'll also let you and who ever else know.

Well I obviously don't think that your experiences are communications from aliens,
but I can't rule it out absolutely.

The difference is that if I had those experiences I would be curious to determining
what the cause of those experiences was but I would not be about to actively
believe in a cause until I had actually determined what the cause is.

And while hallucination or delusion is the most likely explanation or even a plausible
explanation I couldn't base any beliefs on those experiences.

I couldn't believe what you do (claim to) based on the 'evidence' you have described.

However if you did discover actual evidence for aliens visiting the earth then I would of
course be interested.

I am open minded, but I am an open minded Skeptic.

I will believe anything supported by sufficient evidence, but I wont believe anything UNTIL
there is sufficient evidence for it.


You don't (yet) have sufficient evidence.

Originally posted by JS357
“What is reality, anyway? Just a collective hunch.”
Lily Tomlin

It seems (he said, hedging) that reality consists of our experiences, as shaped and filtered by our hunches about what causes them.

That's your experience of reality.

Which is not the same thing.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Well I obviously don't think that your experiences are communications from aliens,
but I can't rule it out absolutely.

The difference is that if I had those experiences I would be curious to determining
what the cause of those experiences was but I would not be about to actively
believe in a cause until I had actually determined what the cause is TIL
there is sufficient evidence for it.


You don't (yet) have sufficient evidence.

No, their not big on evidence 😕

"I cant rule it out absolutely" . That'll do me.

Dont think I haven't tried to work this stuff out in other ways.
I still may be just duped by my own mind, like you implied.

Ok. I'm over this now. I dont want to be labelled. What else? ...

Originally posted by karoly aczel
No, their not big on evidence 😕

"I cant rule it out absolutely" . That'll do me.

Dont think I haven't tried to work this stuff out in other ways.
I still may be just duped by my own mind, like you implied.

Ok. I'm over this now. I dont want to be labelled. What else? ...

What else what??

Originally posted by googlefudge
What else what??

Whatever.
It was just an ending, but you can use it as a beginning if you want.
What about dancing? Do you dance? That's something else.

Specific or general?



edit: apologies to original poster and original post.

Oh it's RJ's thread... oops didn't I boycott these?

Originally posted by googlefudge
That's your experience of reality.

Which is not the same thing.

Well, at least I don't believe reality is the man behind the curtain. 😉


If you care to see the reference:

YouTube

Originally posted by JS357
“What is reality, anyway? Just a collective hunch.”
Lily Tomlin

It seems (he said, hedging) that reality consists of our experiences, as shaped and filtered by our hunches about what causes them.

Yeah, I think the "collective" part really doesn't seem to matter. It's only what is true for you and yourself that seems to matter. (Mind you, "you and yourself" also subsist on maintaining a co-operational r'ship with the other members of your space. Deny your neighbours at your own peril. Well ... sometimes.)