This is why Trump won

Originally posted by checkbaiter
One more time....
Defunding Planned parenthood is trump's agenda that is favorable to Christian values.
That is one.
Securing the borders is another one.

Election campaign rhetoric aside, haven't the borders been more secure - less illegal immigrants coming in and more people being deported - under Obama than under Bush, Clinton, Bush the elder, and Reagan? In terms of secure borders, do you think Obama's agenda has been "more in line with Christian values" than his predecessors?

Originally posted by FMF
Election campaign rhetoric aside, haven't the borders been more secure - less illegal immigrants coming in and more people being deported - under Obama than under Bush, Clinton, Bush the elder, and Reagan? In terms of secure borders, do you think Obama's agenda has been "more in line with Christian values" than his predecessors?

No, I totally disagree with your assessment..
All these past presidents did nothing to secure the border, Obama was the worst.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
No, I totally disagree with your assessment..
All these past presidents did nothing to secure the border, Obama was the worst.

But surely in terms of the number of people getting in and people getting kicked out he was more rigorous than his predecessors, at least going as far back as the Reagan administration. On what basis are you claiming "Obama was the worst" in terms of securing the border?

Originally posted by FMF
But surely in terms of the number of people getting in and people getting kicked out he was more rigorous than his predecessors, at least going as far back as the Reagan administration. On what basis are you claiming "Obama was the worst" in terms of securing the border?

Then then Border Security was ordered to catch and release.
I may be wrong on him being the worst but they are all guilty.
Now it remains to be seen if Trump is true to his word.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Then then Border Security was ordered to catch and release.

And what argument are you putting forward about "Christian values" with regard to this particular policy?

Originally posted by FMF
And what argument are you putting forward about "Christian values" with regard to this particular policy?

I already stated his agenda is favorable to Christian values.
The question is will he remain true to his word?

Originally posted by checkbaiter
I already stated his agenda is favorable to Christian values.

I know what you stated. And it is specifically because of what you stated that I am asking you the question: what argument are you putting forward about "Christian values" with regard to the border security policy of "catch and release"?

Originally posted by checkbaiter

I already stated his agenda is favorable to Christian values.

How about Mark 12:31 ‘You shall love your neighbour as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

No, that can't be it. What about Romans 15:2 "Let each of us please his neighbour for his good, to build him up."

No, that can't be it either...

Originally posted by checkbaiter
One more time....
Defunding Planned parenthood is trump's agenda that is favorable to Christian values.
That is one.
Securing the borders is another one.

How is border security a 'Christian value'?

Originally posted by checkbaiter
I answered a few posts ago, please learn to read.

No all you have done is defend him and claim his "agenda" is close to Christian values. What exactly on his agenda is close to your Christian values?

Originally posted by checkbaiter
I already stated his agenda is favorable to Christian values.
The question is will he remain true to his word?

Yes but you won't say which Christian values. All you keep doing is repeating the same thing over and over again.

At least you haven't resorted to blurting angry insults and throwing scriptures around, like josephw has. Well done for that.

Originally posted by divegeester
At least you haven't resorted to blurting angry insults and throwing scriptures around, like josephw has. Well done for that.

Be that as it may, but he has tried to drag my underpants into the discussion.

Originally posted by FMF
Be that as it may, but he [b]has tried to drag my underpants into the discussion.[/b]

Yuk.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
How about Mark 12:31 ‘You shall love your neighbour as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

No, that can't be it. What about Romans 15:2 "Let each of us please his neighbour for his good, to build him up."

No, that can't be it either...

Nice try, but were the Amalekites or the Canaanites or the Nebusites invited or loved?
Immigration is great isn't it? We already have a process legally.
And the ones who love the USA are welcome, but not the ones looking for freebies at the expense of the taxpayer.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Nice try, but were the Amalekites or the Canaanites or the Nebusites invited or loved?
Immigration is great isn't it? We already have a process legally.
And the ones who love the USA are welcome, but not the ones looking for freebies at the expense of the taxpayer.

And the ones who love the USA are welcome, but not the ones looking for freebies at the expense of the taxpayer.

This country was founded on foreigners coming to these shores looking for freebies and entitlements.

That's why the former owners of the land are all on "reservations" now.

It is typical that many people want to shut the Golden Gate after they get their goodies.