Originally posted by FMF"I am a bit new around here but think I have a fairly good handle on the regular players, and the out comes of constructive debate. It seems as any thread, no matter how started ends up off topic (rabbit holes) and leaves people pissed. I have seen a lot or articulation in making points, I for one am not very good at this... And will probably not win many. I am just wondering, do we seek or are we just arguing? Seems to be very little respect for one another."-k
It's all there if you're interested. I am not interested in indulging you at all.
Seems k nailed it with respect to you.
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"How do I know what I think until I see what I write?" -Pushkin
Fully embrace honest Al's premise as it relates to articulating conceptual thought. Packaging it for presentation is always the critical dynamic (for the coding and decoding to be accomplished with economy and clarity). Reminds me of the old chestnut, 'Sorry for the long letter but I was pressed for time'. Brevity and concision most always play malor roles in persuasion. Running at the mouth...
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27 Oct 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyGood for you if you've found what you're looking for.
"I am a bit new around here but think I have a fairly good handle on the regular players, and the out comes of constructive debate. It seems as any thread, no matter how started ends up off topic (rabbit holes) and leaves people pissed. I have seen a lot or articulation in making points, I for one am not very good at this... And will probably not win ma ...[text shortened]... vity and concision most always play malor roles in persuasion. Running at the mouth...
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27 Oct 12
Originally posted by sumydid
What the skeptics seemingly cannot or will not understand is, the Creator of this or any universe, is not bound by that creation's internal, physical, scientific laws.
What the skeptics seemingly cannot or will not allow themselves to do, is take a completely objective point of view, and imagine a being creating a universe, and then realizing the fallacio ...[text shortened]... The rest is rendered pointless, as it's so easily explained by the answer to this issue.
The Theist simply takes the teachings of his/her God/god at face value.
No, the Theist takes the teachings they believe to be the teachings of his/her god at face value. A cursory examination of the sources of scripture should be enough to demonstrate to any rational person the frailty of this position.
27 Oct 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySeems k nailed it with respect to you.
"I am a bit new around here but think I have a fairly good handle on the regular players, and the out comes of constructive debate. It seems as any thread, no matter how started ends up off topic (rabbit holes) and leaves people pissed. I have seen a lot or articulation in making points, I for one am not very good at this... And will probably not win ma ...[text shortened]... vity and concision most always play malor roles in persuasion. Running at the mouth...
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In what way has "k nailed it" with respect to FMF?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne"I am a bit new around here but think I have a fairly good handle on the regular players, and the out comes of constructive debate. It seems as any thread, no matter how started ends up off topic (rabbit holes) and leaves people pissed. I have seen a lot or articulation in making points, I for one am not very good at this... And will probably not win many. I am just wondering, do we seek or are we just arguing? Seems to be very little respect for one another."-k
[b]Seems k nailed it with respect to you.
In what way has "k nailed it" with respect to FMF?[/b]
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27 Oct 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyC'mon GB. Do you sincerely not understand that I'm asking you to explain in what ways you think the contents of that quote apply to FMF?
"I am a bit new around here but think I have a fairly good handle on the regular players, and the out comes of constructive debate. It seems as any thread, no matter how started ends up off topic (rabbit holes) and leaves people pissed. I have seen a lot or articulation in making points, I for one am not very good at this... And will probably not win ma ...[text shortened]... ng, do we seek or are we just arguing? Seems to be very little respect for one another."-k
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27 Oct 12
Originally posted by sonhouseConfiguring the router is probably the most difficult aspect of setting up Echolink, it allowsthe transmission Tx/Rx. I am uncertian if you viewed the docs yet but here it is if you had not. http://echolink.org/firewall-friendly.htm
I did the echolink download but ran into trouble setting up my router, echo wants access to port 5198 and 5199 and a program echolink recommended to figure out the router had a list of routers but mine wasn't in the list (Cisco WRTu54-TM) a T Mobile hotspot router that has a phone line so you can use the house phone as if it were a T mobile cell phone. I think I have to dig into the router to find out how to access those ports manually.
Are you sure your router is not a WRTu54g-TM, did not see much for WRTu54-TM.
Anyways, this will be of interest to you... http://pcsupport.about.com/od/linksys-default-passwords/a/wrt54g-tm-default-password.htm
You will also need your router IP, once in your router you will need to add a policy for these ports. Let me know if you need help, and I can do that through email so as to not turn the spirituality forum into a ham radio forum, however that would not be a bad thing.
My email, 8973498@gmail.com
27 Oct 12
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne"It seems as any thread, no matter how started ends up off topic (rabbit holes) and leaves people pissed."
C'mon GB. Do you sincerely not understand that I'm asking you to explain in what ways you think the contents of that quote apply to FMF?
Sorry, Think, thought the correlation was obvious.
27 Oct 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyReligionists often try to hide in rabbit holes of their own making when they get called on their contradictions and inconsistencies.
[b]"It seems as any thread, no matter how started ends up off topic (rabbit holes) and leaves people pissed."
Sorry, Think, thought the correlation was obvious.[/b]
27 Oct 12
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Originally posted by sumydidHaving been deprived of any decent amount of sleep for nearly 3 weeks, what I posted (and now you're responding to it) was simply not good enough...theists don't just assert things about their god s that are physically impossible, they also assert things that are easily understood to us skeptics as logically impossible too. I might re-post it later
What the skeptics seemingly cannot or will not understand is, the Creator of this or any universe, is not bound by that creation's internal, physical, scientific laws.
What the skeptics seemingly cannot or will not allow themselves to do, is take a completely objective point of view, and imagine a being creating a universe, and then realizing the fallacio The rest is rendered pointless, as it's so easily explained by the answer to this issue.
You mention "a creator"; typically this is not (in any non-trivial sense) what is being discussed by a theist, indeed they often talk about one particular creator out of an infinite set of creators- namely "G"od.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAre you sincerely trying to claim that you don't understand that when someone asks you to explain how YOU think a given quote applies, that they are asking for something other than a cut and paste of the quote? That they are asking for an actual EXPLANATION of what YOU think? Are you sincerely trying to claim that you don't understand that subsequently pasting a portion of the quote still does not constitute an EXPLANATION? That if the correlation was "obvious" to the person, they would not ask for an EXPLANATION of what YOU think?
[b]"It seems as any thread, no matter how started ends up off topic (rabbit holes) and leaves people pissed."
Sorry, Think, thought the correlation was obvious.[/b]