16 Nov 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI think forgiveness and letting go of resentment are two different things. For me, forgiving someone involves re-establishing trust, wiping the slate, if you will. No longer holding on to resentment seems less participatory and rather more personal.
Forgiveness is simply letting go of resentment, is it not?
I'm always baffled when hearing someone who's been wronged in some awful way (like the family of a murdered person) say that they've forgiven the murderer. Whether their motivation is psychological or religious, or a mixture of the two, I'm not sure.
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16 Nov 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWe don't know how far away from the boat they were. My point is I think Peter then regained his trust and may have walked back with the Lord. We just don't know.
But looking at the windstorm, he became afraid. And when he started to sink, he cried
out: “Lord, save me!” Immediately stretching out his hand, Jesus caught hold of him
and said to him: “You with little faith, why did you give way to doubt?” After they got up
into the boat, the windstorm abated. Matt 14: 31-33
It seems evident that it was ...[text shortened]... annot say, it seems to me to speculate
about what is not written rather than focus on what is.
Just thinking out side the box...😉
16 Nov 15
Originally posted by Green Paladinyes i think you may be correct, after all its possible to forgive someone but not forget what they did.
I think forgiveness and letting go of resentment are two different things. For me, forgiving someone involves re-establishing trust, wiping the slate, if you will. No longer holding on to resentment seems less participatory and rather more personal.
I'm always baffled when hearing someone who's been wronged in some awful way (like the family of a m ...[text shortened]... . Whether their motivation is psychological or religious, or a mixture of the two, I'm not sure.
I think people forgive a murderer not for the murderers sake but for their own sake, otherwise resentment may eat them up and they become entirely bitter by the experience. Its a coping mechanism.
Originally posted by Green PaladinThose people that show no remorse for the evil they did do not deserve forgiveness in my opinion. The Muslim extremist that cheer at the beheading and death of their victums will receive no forgiveness from me. The fact that they shout "Allahu Akbar" just magnifies their evil deeds in my eyes.
I think forgiveness and letting go of resentment are two different things. For me, forgiving someone involves re-establishing trust, wiping the slate, if you will. No longer holding on to resentment seems less participatory and rather more personal.
I'm always baffled when hearing someone who's been wronged in some awful way (like the family of a m ...[text shortened]... . Whether their motivation is psychological or religious, or a mixture of the two, I'm not sure.
From my viewpoint of what is written in the Holy Bible, God will not forgive the evil of the unrepentant and will administer revenge at an appropriate time and place. To forgive unrepentant evil would make me just as guilty as those that commit evil. There is a big difference to me in not seeking revenge and total forgiveness of the evil deeds.
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17 Nov 15
Originally posted by RJHindsI understand the frustration and anger of many, and I agree these people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Those people that show no remorse for the evil they did do not deserve forgiveness in my opinion. The Muslim extremist that cheer at the beheading and death of their victums will receive no forgiveness from me. The fact that they shout "Allahu Akbar" just magnifies their evil deeds in my eyes.
From my viewpoint of what is written in the Holy Bible, God ...[text shortened]... There is a big difference to me in not seeking revenge and total forgiveness of the evil deeds.
But bear in mind that what they do, they do ignorantly. They are deceived by the god of this world. Jesus forgave those who ignorantly tortured him.
I have a hard time wrapping my pea brain around that, but remind myself we are in a spiritual war. We do not fight against flesh and blood, but spiritual wickedness from on high.
Yes, prosecute and do everything possible to protect the innocent, but we must also remember they are people under the sway of the evil one.
Our prayers should be directed to break their bonds from Satan.
17 Nov 15
Originally posted by checkbaiterI do not believe everyone that does evil are ignorant of what they do. Even if the devil is ignorant of his evil, his final destination in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone seems the right reward to me. I am sure that any frustration and anger that I may have will be dissolved by a just judgment.
I understand the frustration and anger of many, and I agree these people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
But bear in mind that what they do, they do ignorantly. They are deceived by the god of this world. Jesus forgave those who ignorantly tortured him.
I have a hard time wrapping my pea brain around that, but remind myself we are i ...[text shortened]... under the sway of the evil one.
Our prayers should be directed to break their bonds from Satan.
HalleluYaH !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
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17 Nov 15
Originally posted by RJHindsI'm not talking about the Devil! I'm talking about people! Of course Satan is evil and is not ignorant.
I do not believe everyone that does evil are ignorant of what they do. Even if the devil is ignorant of his evil, his final destination in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone seems the right reward to me. I am sure that any frustration and anger that I may have will be dissolved by a just judgment.
HalleluYaH !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
18 Nov 15
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Originally posted by checkbaiterThere will be people that will be cast into the Lake of Fire too. 😏
I'm not talking about the Devil! I'm talking about people! Of course Satan is evil and is not ignorant.
Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
(Revelation 14:9-10 NASB)
And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
(Revelation 20:15 NASB)
01 Dec 15
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Originally posted by sonshipAfter my texts I was asking questions and inviting my audience to comment. How is that in any shape or form a monologue? the reason i shared it because it was an awesome study, Peter regained his balance by focusing on Jesus, how immense and practical. We can all redress the balance by focusing on Jesus.
I thought you didn't like monologues ?
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01 Dec 15
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
After my texts I was asking questions and inviting my audience to comment. How is that in any shape or form a monologue? the reason i shared it because it was an awesome study, Peter regained his balance by focusing on Jesus, how immense and practical. We can all redress the balance by focusing on Jesus.
Peters experienced a lack of faith when he focused his attention away from Jesus onto the incoming storm. This is why he started to sink.
Excellent Mr. Carrobie.
Now let us consider three aspects of Peter’s experience related to faith: (1) how Peter first showed faith in God’s support, (2) why Peter began to lose faith, and (3) what helped Peter to regain his faith. Examining these points can help us to see how we can “stand firm in the faith.”—1 Cor. 16:13.
... Monologue.
( I didn't say it was not a subject of interest )
01 Dec 15
Originally posted by sonshipno one else was answering, so I had to demonstrate how to answer it myself,Peters experienced a lack of faith when he focused his attention away from Jesus onto the incoming storm. This is why he started to sink.
Excellent Mr. Carrobie.
Now let us consider three aspects of Peter’s experience related to faith: (1) how Peter first showed faith in God’s support, (2) why Peter began to lose faith, and (3) what helpe ...[text shortened]... Cor. 16:13.
... Monologue.
( I didn't say it was not a subject of interest )