Originally posted by josephwFor me, "eternity" has nothing to do with "spirituality". And, as I said, "Is Jesus a liar?" doesn't work with people who do not incorporate Jesus into their belief system. And it won't work with people like karoly and me.
You're right. I was being being vague.
But that was last night. Now I'm feelin' the power!
Originally posted by karoly aczelBecause you asked karoly. Don't you remember?
ditto
and why go on about stuff that has nothing to do with TM, dear josephw?
I'm tellin' ya, quit smokin' the weed! It messes with the natural brain chemistry. It might make you feel good, but it has devastating effects on perceptions.
Don't be offended by my picking on you.
Originally posted by FMFits a reference to a cartoon FMF, Sylvester and Tweety pie and how the bad ol putty cat Sylvester always tries to get at the little innocent bird. If you have ever watched any, you will know that tweety pie is not as innocent as he likes to make out and that the cat is as much a victim as the bird, more so in fact. Thus it seems to me to be a reflection of the forum, in which those who try to 'get at', others, are really only harming themselves and those who like to make themselves out to be innocent victims, are perhaps not as innocent as they like to make out.
You interjected into a discussion about reincarnation between me and Dasa to make some sort of obtrusive victimhood-driven "point" about how you "...watch out for bad ol putty cats and and other aggressive birds" on this forum. I suppose my in-good-faith and studiously neutral observation is simply that when you want to be you are not, yourself, as nice and as " ...[text shortened]... ly know what to say. It's not like I'm saying something that isn't common knowledge.
I still think it would be pretty awesome to be a bird for a day.
Originally posted by FMFOf course not. You have effectively constructed a belief system that is just relative enough so that you can ignore what ever rubs you the wrong way.
For me, "eternity" has nothing to do with "spirituality". And, as I said, "Is Jesus a liar?" doesn't work with people who do not incorporate Jesus into their belief system. And it won't work with people like karoly and me.
Look FMF. I know you're just a regular guy like me or anyone else, so don't get the idea I think of you as anything other than what you are. I'm not trying to cut you down to size or prove you wrong just so that I can feel big and important. I have no doubt you are a better person than I am in many ways.
Eternity is the issue when considering spiritual things. I don't see how you can divorce the two.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell I suppose this kind of obsequious pouting flannel about cartoon characters is better than you trying to play a Nazi Card or citing TOS infractions. So I'll interpret it as a manifestation of your nicer side, which I have commended you on at least twice on this thread already.
its a reference to a cartoon FMF, Sylvester and Tweety pie and how the bad ol putty cat Sylvester always tries to get at the little innocent bird. If you have ever watched any, you will know that tweety pie is not as innocent as he likes to make out and that the cat is as much a victim as the bird, more so in fact.
Originally posted by FMFSo, what do you think of me?
I know you have a self-image as a nice, friendly, thoughtful, humorous poster. And at your best you surely are. But as a relative outsider - with no religionist or cultist axe to grind, and with no personal axe to grind either - let me just share the observation that - at your worst [when you are caught in a lie or when you will brook no dissent]- you are one of nastiest pieces of work here. Just an observation. No offence intended.
Seriously. I value your critique.
Originally posted by FMFobsequious pouting flannel??? (great phrase that!) Never the less, I think it was inspired! We have been through the so called 'Nazi card', and there are many fine lines of reasoning to be had from the terrible affair, unless of course you wish to denigrate the findings of the Nuremberg Trials? I thank you for having been somewhat lenient with me in this episode and i look upon it as a sign of goodwill despite what has transpired in the past.
Well I suppose this kind of obsequious pouting flannel about cartoon characters is better than you trying to play a Nazi Card or citing TOS infractions. So I'll interpret it as a manifestation of your nicer side, which I have commended you on at least twice on this thread already.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhy would you even suggest that I might wish "to denigrate the findings of the Nuremberg Trials"? What would be your motivation for that?
We have been through the so called 'Nazi card', and there are many fine lines of reasoning to be had from the terrible affair, unless of course you wish to denigrate the findings of the Nuremberg Trials?
Originally posted by FMFWell you have an aversion to anyone using the episode to establish certain points, thus your use of the term, 'playing the Nazi card', how else are we to account for it?
Why would you even suggest that I might wish "to denigrate the findings of the Nuremberg Trials"? What would be your motivation for that?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI have somewhat of an aversion to being told that I am denigrating the memory of Nazi victims when I refuse to be browbeaten into agreeing with your "points" simply because you lay some claim to the 'meaning' of the Holocaust. And now here you are again, suggesting that I might wish "to denigrate the findings of the Nuremberg Trials". Why do you do this robbie?
Well you have an aversion to anyone using the episode to establish certain points, thus your use of the term, 'playing the Nazi card', how else are we to account for it?
Originally posted by FMFI have an aversion to it also FMF, which is why i dont use terms like 'playing the Nazi card'.
I have somewhat of an aversion to being told that I am denigrating the memory of Nazi victims when I refuse to be browbeaten into agreeing with your "points" simply because you lay some claim to the 'meaning' of the Holocaust. And now here you are again, suggesting that I might wish "to denigrate the findings of the Nuremberg Trials". Why do you do this robbie?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhy are you suggesting that I might want "to denigrate the findings of the Nuremberg Trials"? Why do you use this Nazi issue to attack people you don't agree with?
We have been through the so called 'Nazi card', and there are many fine lines of reasoning to be had from the terrible affair, unless of course you wish to denigrate the findings of the Nuremberg Trials?